• neptune@dmv.social
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      I’ll never vote for Hunter or Jared for political office. That much is sure.

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      So what? It may be unsavory, but I don’t see how any of this is illegal. And I especially don’t see why they should be wasting taxpayer dollars on this huge circus of an investigation into something that’s not illegal. Hunter Biden is not an elected official, nor does he hold public office appointed, or otherwise. He’s a private citizen, and going after him is just a slimy way of attacking Joe Biden indirectly because the Republicans don’t have anything on him. 

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        If the only defense you have for the behavior is “well its not illegal!” then you’re pretty much just admitting it’s indefensible. It’s just as corrupt when Joe Biden’s kid does it as it is when Trump’s spawn do. If he’s so unaffiliated and detached from his father as a private, non-political citizen then why do you care if he gets put through the wringer for being an influence peddling little shit?

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          who said Hunter Biden needs a defense? he’s not accountable to you or to anyone.

          he doesn’t hold nor is he running for public office. he’s a private citizen. HE’S ALLOWED TO BE A SCUMBAG. and if you don’t like that, too bad.

          he doesn’t owe you or anyone else an explanation, a defense, or anything else.

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            Do you think it should be legal for people to go around using your father’s political position to peddle your influence? Are you unwilling to entertain the idea that it’s possible he did do something that actually is illegal while being an immoral scumbag? If not, then why not just shrug your shoulders and let them fight it out, instead of rushing to point out how totally legal it is to be a piece of shit.

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              It has nothing to do with my feelings or your paranoid rhetoric. It has to do with the facts of the matter, and whether you have any evidence at hand that warrants dragging him before congressional committee just because you don’t like who his dad is. Which you don’t.

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                You’re right that I don’t like Biden. I don’t think it’s paranoid to suggest that someone who was blatantly peddling influence may have possibly run afoul of one of the few toothless corruption laws we have. Personally, I’d like to see all dynastic influence peddling political children dragged before a congressional committee, especially Trump’s, but I’m not gonna cry foul because the one that got bit by it is the one whose father falls closer (but still quite far from) my beliefs on some political spectrum. If he wanted to remain a private citizen free from political and public scrutiny, then he shouldn’t have gone around selling access to his familial political connections.

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                  But that’s exactly what you’re doing: crying foul, and you don’t have any evidence that he’s doing that. Once again, you’re using circular logic in order to justify dragging someone before a congressional hearings because you don’t like their father, and you have suspicions. Suspicions, not evidence. In this country, your hatred of his father, combined with your own paranoia are not nearly enough. 

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                    You’re making it sound like being called into a congressional hearing is some great injustice, though. It’s not a court of law, what is and isn’t illegal isn’t super relevant here. His job in Ukraine for that gas company was pretty transparent influence peddling. He has no qualifications for it and by all accounts he didn’t really do much of anything but collect a paycheck.

                    You’re welcome to not believe that I guess, but I think that would make you pretty gullible. A lot of politicians’ children do this. On both sides. I cannot bring myself to care about the only one to have to actually stand in congress and try to justify it.

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          what would you like us to do about not-illegal behavior involving not-the-president? you’re not the president, and presumably you’ve done things that are not illegal, so keep that in mind when you formulate your response.

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            When people engage in shit I find to be immoral I do not care a single bit when they face consequences for the immoral things they did. Legality is not part of my moral calculus. You’re right that Im not the son of the president so I don’t have to worry about this bullshit slippery slope you’ve conjured to deflect with.

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              Then, why do you hypocritically keep demanding that a private citizen be dragged before Congress for a complete circus sham of a hearing when there’s no evidence that he broke the law, other than the fact that you just don’t like him, of course….?

              And why should Congress give a shit about your “moral calculus”? 

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      I don’t think anyone on either side of the aisle (except for the most die-hard thoughtless folks I suppose) would argue against it being immoral, but that’s the whole point - immoral != illegal

      You can absolutely look down on Hunter for doing it, hell, you can absolutely look down on Joe for not coming down on Hunter for it, but there’s no crime here, despite the conservative medias best efforts to make it seem like there is one, so they can report on that instead of the numerous actual crimes that Trump is on trial for.