The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don’t think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the “second in command”

  • kukkurovaca@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    lol, defederating is not anything like jail

    • Federating is like sitting at a big table with a bunch of people in a restaurant.
    • Blocking is moving a couple seats down from someone who’s being an asshole so you can’t hear them anymore (but meanwhile they’re still harassing your friends, you’re just ignoring it)
    • Defederating is separating the group so that you’re no longer at the table with the asshole and their asshole friends

    Now, in a tolerant society, we should be tolerant of people who are merely annoying. But not people who are normalizing violence and hate. There are people you fundamentally should not sit at a table with.

    It’s important to understand the difference between a good faith disagreement and bad faith propaganda and harassment campaigns, which is what the right wing troll farms deal in.

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      1 year ago

      Defederating is separating the group so that you’re no longer at the table with the asshole and their asshole friends

      The issue is that you’re no longer choosing who you interact with you’re choosing who everyone interacts with. You’re walking away with a table that other people are sitting at. This isn’t Reddit you’re not banning their subreddit, they’re not deplatformed, you’re just adding them to the block list of everyone on your instance.

      You have no right to tell me what I can see and respond to anymore than I have a right to tell you who you can and cannot block.

      • kukkurovaca@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        You have no right to tell me what I can see and respond to anymore than I have a right to tell you who you can and cannot block.

        That’s also not what defederating is. Nobody’s speech or ability to see speech is being restricted, since we are all free to set up accounts on other instances. Users are making a reasonable request to the instance owner for a normal moderation action that is in line with stated community standards and past defederation decisions (i.e., lemmygrad); the instance owner is free to honor it or not.

        The basic question, which every fediverse instance has been having to deal with since inception, is how to draw the line on communities that willingly include bad actors. It has to be drawn somewhere, and where you draw it says a lot.