In response to complaints about its coverage, CBC says Israeli state violence is different than Hamas’ violence because the killing of Palestinians happens “remotely”
No it doesn’t, the government of Israel is giving the orders, and therefore it’s not murder. Governments can’t murder, there are other words that describe when a government kills people.
Soldiers sniping obviously innocent people (including women going to church, and hostages trying to escape in their underwear waving white flags) is definitely murder.
If a solider is operating on orders when killing civilians, it’s legally not murder. It’s still bad, but they will not charged by the government with murder because it was authorized by the government.
That’s what I’m saying here. There are legal definitions for these words that matter.
Yes. Murder has very specific definitions. (Note the plural.) Let me help you out with this, Sparky:
murder
/ ˈmɜr dər /
noun
Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder, ormurder one ), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder, or murder two ).
Slang. something extremely difficult or perilous: That final exam was murder!
verb
Law. to kill by an act constituting murder.
to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.
to commit murder.
The slang definition doesn’t apply, so 2. A newspaper is not a court of law, so the legal definitions are gone: 1 and 3. That leaves 5 (which itself is just a reference to the legal definition, so 5) and 4.
I think 4 applies fully here. What’s happening in Gaza is definitely a slaughter, definitely inhuman, and definitely barbarous. This is also the correct register for informal reportage not related to legal actions.
So perhaps if you want to argue based on definitions you should fucking read the dictionary first, Sparky. Or get used to people pointing and laughing at you in your clown pants.
They’re not. Murder has a specific definition, what’s happening in gaza is not it.
Brutal, maybe, but it’s a useless word and the editorial guidelines likely provide different words that are more applicable in a reporting context.
Murder does have a specific definition, you are correct in that.
What’s happening in Gaza meets that definition, so you are wrong in that.
No it doesn’t, the government of Israel is giving the orders, and therefore it’s not murder. Governments can’t murder, there are other words that describe when a government kills people.
Funniest shit I read today, thank you
You can’t read full sentences clearly.
Do you prefer the term “war crime”?
CBC has used other words, including war crime. That’s kinda the point.
They have specific journalistic ways of describing things in many different contexts. https://cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/vision/governance/journalistic-standards-and-practices
I quoted the dictionary definition of murder above. Can you point to the part that says governments can’t murder?
Soldiers sniping obviously innocent people (including women going to church, and hostages trying to escape in their underwear waving white flags) is definitely murder.
If a solider is operating on orders when killing civilians, it’s legally not murder. It’s still bad, but they will not charged by the government with murder because it was authorized by the government.
That’s what I’m saying here. There are legal definitions for these words that matter.
Ah, so it’s war crimes. I was worried there for a bit.
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“Legal” definitions are for “legal” actions and “legal” contexts. Like an international criminal court.
This is reportage for a general audience, not legal briefs. Fuck off with your legalistic shit.
Yes. Murder has very specific definitions. (Note the plural.) Let me help you out with this, Sparky:
murder
/ ˈmɜr dər /
noun
Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder, ormurder one ), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder, or murder two ).Slang. something extremely difficult or perilous: That final exam was murder!verb
Law. to kill by an act constituting murder.to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.
to commit murder.The slang definition doesn’t apply, so
2. A newspaper is not a court of law, so the legal definitions are gone:1and3. That leaves 5 (which itself is just a reference to the legal definition, so5) and 4.I think 4 applies fully here. What’s happening in Gaza is definitely a slaughter, definitely inhuman, and definitely barbarous. This is also the correct register for informal reportage not related to legal actions.
So perhaps if you want to argue based on definitions you should fucking read the dictionary first, Sparky. Or get used to people pointing and laughing at you in your clown pants.