You actually can’t be mad about this one. This is effectively binary which you use all the time without knowing it. And even worse, proper SI notation has jacked up binary hardcore.
1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32… You won’t find a 1/12 or some other number.
Maybe that’s why I couldn’t tell if a gigabyte has 1000 megabytes or 1024. People keep telling me one or the other. Others keep telling me that there’s 1024 mebibytes in 1 gibibyte, but those names absolutely suck.
Hmm, never heard that before. Idk how to link to a specific section of a page, but what I’m talking about is there too, one section down.
An alternate system of nomenclature for the same units (referred to here as the customary convention), in which 1 kilobyte (KB) is equal to 1,024 bytes,[38][39][40] 1 megabyte (MB) is equal to 10242 bytes and 1 gigabyte (GB) is equal to 10243 bytes is mentioned by a 1990s JEDEC standard. Only the first three multiples (up to GB) are mentioned by the JEDEC standard, which makes no mention of TB and larger. The customary convention is used by the Microsoft Windows operating system[41][better source needed] and random-access memory capacity, such as main memory and CPU cache size, and in marketing and billing by telecommunication companies, such as Vodafone,[42] AT&T,[43] Orange[44] and Telstra.[45]
For storage capacity, the customary convention was used by macOS and iOS through Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard and iOS 10, after which they switched to units based on powers of 10.[34]
Yes, you’re right that 1024 bytes was a kilobyte and in fact it was that way for several decades. However, as the differences between powers of two and powers of ten increase as we see larger sizes, it’s become common to differentiate them.
Because a lot of imperial measurements revolved around being able to be divided by 4, and occasionally 3 at times.
For instance the cooking unit of measurments are in 4’s or base 2 in a way (e.g 1 gallon = 4 quarts = 8 pints = 16 cups = 128 ounces)
We still see 4s or 3s irl regardless of measurement system. Doughnuts are often prepared in dozens and virtually never in 10s. Do we walk around claiming why bakers hate 10 step counting?
Time is the example of something designed around 3/4 and didn’t change. 60 is divisiable by both 4 (15) and 3 (20) and is not base 10, but people can accept that.
Time is the example of something designed around 3/4 and didn’t change. 60 is divisiable by both 4 (15) and 3 (20) and is not base 10, but people can accept that.
Using 12 and 16 makes for easier maths (pre-calculators). It’s easier to divide and get an integer. With easy access to calculators and highly precise measurements (especially digital systems) metric makes more sense and is easier to interpret quickly.
The damn imperial system and its weird 1/16 measurements. Why do you people hate 10 step counting?
You actually can’t be mad about this one. This is effectively binary which you use all the time without knowing it. And even worse, proper SI notation has jacked up binary hardcore.
1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32… You won’t find a 1/12 or some other number.
Maybe that’s why I couldn’t tell if a gigabyte has 1000 megabytes or 1024. People keep telling me one or the other. Others keep telling me that there’s 1024 mebibytes in 1 gibibyte, but those names absolutely suck.
It’s 1024 because 1 bit is either a 1 or a 0, and a byte has 8 bits in it.
No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte#Units_based_on_powers_of_10
Hmm, never heard that before. Idk how to link to a specific section of a page, but what I’m talking about is there too, one section down.
An alternate system of nomenclature for the same units (referred to here as the customary convention), in which 1 kilobyte (KB) is equal to 1,024 bytes,[38][39][40] 1 megabyte (MB) is equal to 10242 bytes and 1 gigabyte (GB) is equal to 10243 bytes is mentioned by a 1990s JEDEC standard. Only the first three multiples (up to GB) are mentioned by the JEDEC standard, which makes no mention of TB and larger. The customary convention is used by the Microsoft Windows operating system[41][better source needed] and random-access memory capacity, such as main memory and CPU cache size, and in marketing and billing by telecommunication companies, such as Vodafone,[42] AT&T,[43] Orange[44] and Telstra.[45]
For storage capacity, the customary convention was used by macOS and iOS through Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard and iOS 10, after which they switched to units based on powers of 10.[34]
Yes, you’re right that 1024 bytes was a kilobyte and in fact it was that way for several decades. However, as the differences between powers of two and powers of ten increase as we see larger sizes, it’s become common to differentiate them.
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10 isn’t the best base and I’m sick of pretending it is.
I would pick base 12. Which would you prefer?
Base 12 crew represent.
Base 60
Base six
https://www.seximal.net/
Base 12 has some aweful divisions, like 1/5th and 1/7th
Hexadecimal is always best.
It doesn’t divide by 3
Granted, but it divides by two multiple times. Take a good, round number like 1024 and you can halve it 10 times in a row.
The metric system handles thirds by just using multiples. Like, you buy a 1200 wide benchtop and then you can fit a three 400 drawers under it.
You could technically do the same in hex and the base numbers are all (x^y + x^(y+1)) which represent well.
Decimal thirds suck. One gets 33c the second gets 33c the third gets 34c
We’re just lucky that 1c is negligible
All the bases are 10
12 would have been a better base.
The only thing going for 10 is that’s how many fingers you have if you can only count in ones
There are a total of twelve segments on the four fingers of each hand (thumb excluded) making it just as easy to count to 12.
Or you can count in binary, and get to over 1000 on ten fingers
Because a lot of imperial measurements revolved around being able to be divided by 4, and occasionally 3 at times.
For instance the cooking unit of measurments are in 4’s or base 2 in a way (e.g 1 gallon = 4 quarts = 8 pints = 16 cups = 128 ounces)
We still see 4s or 3s irl regardless of measurement system. Doughnuts are often prepared in dozens and virtually never in 10s. Do we walk around claiming why bakers hate 10 step counting?
Time is the example of something designed around 3/4 and didn’t change. 60 is divisiable by both 4 (15) and 3 (20) and is not base 10, but people can accept that.
The French tried decimal time for a few years…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Using 12 and 16 makes for easier maths (pre-calculators). It’s easier to divide and get an integer. With easy access to calculators and highly precise measurements (especially digital systems) metric makes more sense and is easier to interpret quickly.
16 is a power of two. Half, quarter, eighth, sixteenth.
The main problem is they reduce the goddamn fraction. Let me have my 8/16th wrench.
If you start a new job in a garage you will absolutely be asked to go get one.
I always liked to send new guys to the parts crib for a spool of flight line. Sometimes they’d come back with safety wire.
Because shut up. That’s why.
Why do you people feel the need to be able to convert between the thickness of a human hair and the distance between cities?
Ah yes, this bolt is .000001 kilometers wide. That’s a very useful thing you guys did. Definitely need that in every day life.
Stop, you’re making us Americans look even stupider.
Let them be! I deserve a chuckle every now and then :)
Yeah, that’s why nobody does it that way, but that strawman you got there looks mighty fine…