Calls are growing for the UN Security Council to be reformed after the US became the only member to use its veto power to block a Gaza ceasefire resolution, a move welcomed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The UN chief says he will keep pushing for peace.

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    Russia is committing genocide. They’re both evil. Israel has been doing it for longer and is better at it.

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      Russia is not out to kill all Ukrainians. They are annexing (stealing) land. They want land and then want to assimilate the Ukrainians into their country. (which is bad I’m not condoning Russia here)

      Israel wants to kill all the people living on the land and replace them with their own race.

      This is not nearly the same

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          Again I’m not out here to defend Russia or anything but forced cultural assimilation is not Genocide or ethnic cleansing. Under prohibited acts you can find the requirements

          Genocide is about intentionally murdering people of an ethnic group or forcefully sterilizing them so their race dies out. Russia wants to own the Ukranians land, not murder them.

          I’d personally prefer the option to assimilate rather than being straight up murdered.

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            You need to read the final prohibited act, Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

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        “Forced assimilation” is one way to commit genocide. Another is through holocaust. The Holocaust happened to be genocide via holocaust. Gaza happens to be genocide via holocaust. The definition of genocide doesn’t require it be committed via holocaust.

        Edit: fixed an autoincorrect

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          Giza happens to be genocide via holocaust. The definition of genocide doesn’t require it be committed via holocaust.

          The Pharoah must step in!

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            And the award for the clueless, most unnecessary joke, goes to you. You do understand that not everything requires a shitty take at humor? Your comment brings nothing to the thread, OP has already fixed their mistake. Why are you here?

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        and then want to assimilate the Ukrainians into their country

        Textbook genocide. The erasure of a group of people is genocide. That can be done by:

        • Ethnic cleansing and mass killings (as demonstrated by piles of bodies in Mariupol I believe, as well as mobile crematoriums)

        • Kidnapping the group’s children (again, loudly and proudly admitted to by Russia) to deny the future of the group

        • Forcible assimilation by preventing the group from practicing it’s culture and identity (as demonstrated by Putin saying Ukraine is actually Russian because it’s historically part of the Russian empire)

        There’s one more, that I pray isn’t being used and I think we’d have heard if it was. Rape can be used as a weapon of war to force the group to give birth to your children, and deny their future in that way. To my knowledge Russia does not have a campaign to do so with Ukrainians, thank God.

        A lot of the tactics Russia is using aren’t new either, look into Russification by the USSR to Eastern Europe. They would envelop states into the USSR after purposely growing a Russian population there with settlers. This is the big reason why Eastern Europe tends to hate Russia.

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          as demonstrated by Putin saying Ukraine is actually Russian because it’s historically part of the Russian empire

          Funny that he says “Russian Empire”, because Russia hasn’t been an Empire since Tsar Nicholas II. Is he trying to go back to those days, like try to install himself as Tsar?

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        Israel wants to kill all the people living on the land and replace them with their own race.

        If that was a thing they actually wanted, they’d be doing a really shitty job of it.

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          Nah they’re doing pretty great at it. Maybe a little too fast this time, normally they’re better at taking the land and killing people slow enough to give the US and other Western allies some plausible deniability, but since no one is stopping them still, you can’t even hold that against them.