Homie, I’m sorry but open world really just means its one map and it implies you might be able to go anywhere on the horizon. Rain World has an open world, Elder Scrolls definitely does except for Arena, pretty much any MMO, Astroneer, your OLD GAME No Man’s Sky is open world. Seriously take a step back from your own project and breath for 4 hours before making announcements. That being said, Light No Fire looks ridiculously good and I can’t wait for it.
They’re being cheeky. It IS the first world that is fully open in a game.
No Man’s Sky had open WORLDS. With an S.
Arena is one of the most open world of TES games. You can go anywhere in Tamriel. That said, it’s fairly limited with what it can do, but it’s so much more open than later games. Daggerfall is similar, except it got limited to one region.
Tbh, I think I was thinking of the weird one. Battlespire.
Yeah, that one and Redguard are not open world.
Redguard was cool though. Tbh battlespire was too with the multiplayer, it was just weird too.
Bets on it being a big map with not much to do in it?
He did say he was making Earth, so… yeah?
LOL here we go again.
Gamers: Tell us what you learned, Sean.
Sean Murray in Sam Jackson voice: Not a god damn thing!
IMO, on the Game Awards where it was announced, he looked extremely nervous to say much of anything. And he seemed like he was trying to downplay what the game has with his comments on it being a small team working on it. Which I don’t blame him.
Seems promising.
I’ll play it somewhere in the next 3 to 5 years.
Definitely one of the first strand type games.
It’s still procedurally generated, no? I’d have loved something handcrafted, but I also understand that they want to build on what they already have.
I don’t think you can handcraft a whole world with any reasonable team/timeframe for video game development. Looking at the (very short) video I suspect there will be handcrafted areas like cities, and they’ve put more emphasis on that than in NMS because the size is more manageable. But 80 or 90% needs to be procgen to make it something that can be delivered in years and not decades. Although being a single world, maybe that let them have more visibility of what was being generated (vs checking millions of planets) and then tweak manually large parts of it.
Yeah, the size dictates what’s possible and what isn’t, and that’s absolutely fair.
But hey, this is just a first trailer, so we shouldn’t really make any assumptions, good or bad. Let’s just wait and see.
But is it procgen as you go? Or did they procgen a whole map, which exists from start for you to explore?
Because the latter is very cool, but the verbage around it so far feels like they mean the former, and Ive no clue how that would work with what theyre claiming the game is.
I think it’s the second. Even on No Man’s Sky, with the bazillion worlds, they all exist “as they are” and are consistent from the beginning. If you revisit a planet, it’s exactly as it was.
Now with what I know about this technology, I suspect the way this happens is every planet had a seed (a number) that you can pass to the “random planet generator” it will generate exactly the same thing over and over. Then basically when you load a new planet it goes “right, with this seed, what would we have in these coordinates?” And the answer is persistent.
However having seen how that looks in NMS, I feel they’d have had to add a bit of extra spice to be able to sell a single world. In my mind that involves manually crafted areas almost necessarily, as well as checking most of the planet manually to oversee the procedural generator and massage anything that doesn’t pass a level of quality. If I were to make this game myself, I would use procedural generation for the different areas and not for the whole planet, so that I can give certain sections of the map a “reroll” if I don’t like them.
Sounds plausable. I guess they generated the planet an then told the generator “place this handcraftet city/dungeon/cave/whatever x units away from another handcraftet thing” at least i hope they did otherwise it will get boring pretty quick i think.
Well, with a powerful enough computer you might be able to make a model which creates realistic worlds.
Put in some information like planet size, density, materials, temperatures, biomes, timescale, etc and generate away.
Would definitely take a lot of time and resources to get it perfected but after that every game would be able to make a unique and open world planet.
The people at Hello games must either be Masochists or Sadists…
But I’m definitely getting the game when it comes out.
Wouldn’t Minecraft count as the first or at least one of the early completely open worlds?
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Astroneer is a game where if you run around the whole planet, you will end up right where you were. https://store.steampowered.com/app/361420/ASTRONEER/ Great game and worth a play even if it seems a bit kidish May not be earth scale but still fairly large planets
Space Engineers can get even closer but I have only seen it done with modded planets and they are still no where near earth size
Astroneer has no menus.
This is a design choice, intentionally made, for the sake of immersion. Once you know that, it is very cool.
But if youre going to play it you need to know that it intentionally doesnt use menus, because without knowing that you will feel very lost for your first few hours
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There have been plenty of other open world games years before Minecraft existed. Elite 1984, Legend of Zelda on the NES, Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind. Etc.
The term itself just hasn’t been around that long.
I put something like 500 hours into No Man’s Sky at various points (PC and PS4pro). It was fun! I’ve moved on. But if they get anywhere near that with Light No Fire, I’ll be buying in once again :)
Did you play at launch?
Yeah, but my laptop cried a lot 😭
It’s the first real game
