• GasseousFume@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    50 years of the US outsourcing everything they can to cheap labor countries and now they wake up and realize that this was a problem. You don’t fix 50 years of stupidity quickly.

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    10 months ago

    Isn’t China already making most technology products we buy (phones, computers, TVs etc) ? Sounds like political nonsense.

    US legacy automakers are 10-15 years behind, baring Chinese parts will only keep the US in the Stone Age car-wise.

  • Bruce_Wayne_Imposter@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    In the 70’s American auto manufacturers focused solely on large and luxury vehicles which allowed Japanese brands to bring in small and low cost vehicles; as a result those American brands lost market share and sales.

    Today we have American auto manufacturers making large and luxury electric vehicles and neglecting small and low cost options; with very few cars for sale. Chinese brands are going to dominate that market and reduce domestic brand market share. They already have low cost vehicles being sold across the world and going to enter the American market sooner than later with no competition.

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    10 months ago

    Honestly this is good. Tesla was already making 99% of their parts here in the US.

    I don’t think this is even going to affect them. It will pull other US automakers back to producing parts in the US.

    It’d be nice if the US could partner with China to produce a better EV with partnerships between companies, but that was never going to happen anyways. 🤷‍♂️

    Hopefully this doesn’t have a big impact on imported lithium ion batteries.

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    10 months ago

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    10 months ago

    It’s funny how they give American car manufacturers a $7500 leg up, and GM STILL can’t fucking deliver EVs

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    10 months ago

    Just came back from SEA. Every other new car was a chinese EV. I saw maybe 3 teslas total.

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    10 months ago

    Unless Europe and the US act together, China will control the entire production cycle for electric vehicles. China is the place where 90% of precursor materials are processed, it already has 75% of battery manufacturing, and because the batteries are so heavy, car manufacturing is likely to happen close to battery manufacturing. Most of this capacity has been developed in the last few years, and is being subsidized by the Chinese state in order to obtain a dominant position, to the extent that according to the FT half of battery production is currently sitting unused.

    There are many people who are relaxed or even positive about the Chinese government being in this position of dominance, but this is the most powerful authoritarian government in the world, run by a single party and increasingly by a single person, they have enormous economic and technological power, and they are already running probably the most sophisticated surveillance state to have ever existed, with a direct impact on their citizens daily life.

    Vehicles are already covered in cameras, they have OTA updates, they send data and images remotely, and they carry us around at speeds of 70mph or more. In twenty years they will likely be fully autonomous, with the ability to be controlled remotely. It is just not feasible or realistic to give the Chinese government, effectively the Chinese Communist Party, that kind of control of data, remote viewing, and even over life and death, within all our countries, and assume there will no consequences.

    • nexus22nexus55@alien.topB
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      There are many people who are relaxed or even positive about the Chinese government being in this position of dominance, but this is the most powerful authoritarian government in the world, run by a single party and increasingly by a single person, they have enormous economic and technological power, and they are already running probably the most sophisticated surveillance state to have ever existed, with a direct impact on their citizens daily life.

      and yet China has been at peace for the past 50 years. in the same 50 years, the US has unilaterally sanctioned and bombed countless countries, killing millions of civilians.

      seems to me that the US is the authoritarian govt the world should fear.

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    10 months ago

    Climate change is a global crisis. If China is going to help solve the problem, we should celebrate their efforts.

    And if the US’s domestic auto sector can’t keep up, and American voters care about that, then subsidize them until they can, I guess.

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    10 months ago

    So America will exclude its manufacturers from buying the best tech? That sounds great for competitiveness.

    Most battery tech is in Chinese hands, including the LFP batteries that make affordable EVs possible. The BYD Blade battery is already in the Tesla M3 highland and Y sold in Europe and other markets.