• skyfaller@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    “unsafe for both”? What is the bike going to do to the car? Scratch the paint? Get blood on the tires?

    That said, I agree that separated bike infrastructure saves lives and encourages biking by making people feel safer.

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      Easy enough to imagine a driver (understandably) swerving to avoid killing a cyclist and losing control of the car

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        Not to mention the psychological effects if an accident does happen… ‘Unsafe’ doesn’t have to only mean physical injury or death…

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          I agree. As long as there are drivers, there will be shitty drivers, so it’s worthwhile to design roads in a way that minimizes the chance that shitty driving will kill people.

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      That’s a little melodramatic. I’m 100% on the cyclist side (don’t even have a driving licence) but even I can see mixed traffic is dangerous for both.

      What driver hits a bike unexpectedly (assuming no intent) and doesn’t react in a potentially dangerous way? People crash cars trying to avoid deer even.

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      I mean I get your point, but still agree with op. Running somebody over is unsafe and nothing terrifies me more than backing up in parking lots where kids might dart out unexpectedly.

      There’s bad drivers everywhere, but I’d hazard a guess that most of them do not want to kill a cyclist either…

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      I mean, if a car doesn’t see a cyclist until the last moment, swerves to avoid it, and hits something else, the cyclist being there created a dangerous situation for the driver.

      Even just considering a driver hitting a cyclist, the driver still has to live with that outcome for the rest of their life. Unless your expectation is that the driver is a psychopath who only cares about the condition of their vehicle, which I suppose is a possibility.