In regards to reliability, serviceability, repairability, part availability, etc?
Like is there a vehicle today that we will see 30 years in the future with no quit?
A 2002-2006 Camry is pretty similar to 90s Camrys 😂
Most newer Toyota or Honda vehicles will hold up quite well.
I doubt vehicles will ever be made to last that long even if possible. Especially as newer types of cars (EVs) have less maintenance costs the dealers are really going to need to push people into buying a new car every X number of years, which I imagine theyll do with planned obsolescence like all the electronics manufacturers do.
They are already doing it now, if your battery is done for they just say oh well buy a new battery for 10K or a new car lol
I mean, the 9th Gen Accord is pretty reliable. I have a 2015 I bought new, used and abused the shit out of it. No proper maintenance cycle, replacing things once they broke and I have 320k miles on it. I’ve had 2 sets of rotors. Maybe 6 sets of pads. 3 alternators. 7 batteries. 1 starter. 2 sets of spark plugs. 1 valve cover gasket. 1 PCV valve. And now just a month ago, my A/C fan motor just gave out.
Definitely nothing domestic
“Domestic” doesn’t really have any meaning any more. Toyota and Hyundai make their North American market products in Alabama, and GM’s NA factories are in Canada and Mexico.
Nowadays it’s not about where it was built, it’s about where it was designed. The Asian automakers still design more reliable vehicles than either American or European automakers, although some Asian automakers have begun to “Americanize” their products for a greater emphasis on expedient manufacture versus reliability and ease of maintenance. (Toyota’s recent HVAC changes is an example here, as they’ve started to move away from easily accessible and replaceable evaporator cores in some of their cars in favor of a self-contained airbox that’s easier/faster to install during assembly. Instead of popping out the glovebox and blower assembly and accessing the evap core without having to remove the whole airbox assembly, they’re starting to require dash pulls.)
Ford still makes vehicles in the US. Good point with Toyota and Hyundai/Kia though.
Short answer is no. Those were the pinnacle of auto reliability. Seems to be more focus on cost cutting now and significantly more tech to go bad.
EVs may have potential to raise the reliability bar once the tech is refined and battery life extended.
A Toyota or Honda lol
For me it’s too many electronics and sensors. I would rather have a 90s shit box than anything released in the last 20 years.
THIS! It be nice if they separated all that BS. So can up grade it when it goes out. But nooo you need to replace a dozen other things to make sure that works…I don’t like Volvo 😕 you can’t even replace the stereo. 🤦
A new Toyota, and some new Hondas.
When my 400k mile 99 4runner finally retired, I just bought a new 4runner for peace of mind.
No, I don’t believe there is. Even Honda and Toyota are mediocre at best. The new technology that they have piled on just ruins reliability in favor of supposed emissions gains.
Toyota engines are still made to last…The rest of the car rusts and falls apart around it but the engine is trouble free.
In a perfect world, it would remain that generation of Honda/Toyota with drop in electric motors and battery packs.
Honestly 90’s cars in general were so great. Chevy’s pickups, suv’s, and at least the cavalier are still super prevalent in my area of new england. My 99 Blazer was still a decent vehicle when I sold it, as much as I loved to complain about the lil warpig.
Mazda NA engines
Hilux. coz its still a hilux.