This is my second time renting an EV. First time wasn’t too bad. We stayed local and only had to charge once.

This Thanksgiving we had to drive from Chicago to Omaha to Minneapolis and back to Chicago. It was approximately 1400 miles total. $289 in electric charges. (that feels a lot more expensive than gas). We had to stop every 2 hours to charge for an hour so it extended our trips by 50%. This was quite challenging when we were in a caravan of cars and the ICE ones beat us by several hours. A 6 hour drive turned into 10 hours. I shaved off a few hours by always running the car down to the last couple miles and charging it to 100%. One time was not by choice as we almost ran out due to a dead zone. We were then charged $50 to fill up 3/4 tank at an EA in the middle of Minnesota. That was kind of our breaking point.

Some positives are it was a smooth ride and felt great in the snow.

We wanted to buy an EV but wanted to see how they fair on road trips in the midwest. This experience may scare us away for a while as it was exhausting stressful and expensive. Wondering what we did wrong since so many enjoy EV.

  • Altruistic_Rush_2112@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I am sorry to hear this. The main problem was you picked a vehicle that is well below average for road trips. If you went with a model 3 instead your range could have been 50 miles greater, Charging would be over 50% faster and the number of places to stop would have doubles or more. If an Ioniq 6 you would have had the long range and even faster charging but less chargers to choose from for now.

    Kind of like renting a van when you needed a 3/4 truck. Wrong vehicle for the job.

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    10 months ago

    Charging 80-100% takes forever and usually faster to just stop at 80% then start driving until you need to charge again

    Tesla has many more chargers so easier with a Tesla than a non Tesla

    Day to day EV charging is done by plugging in overnight at home which is much cheaper and easier than road trips

    Personally think renting EV on road trip is a bad idea, you experience the worst of an EV

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      10 months ago

      I guess I had range anxiety as well. I didn’t know where the next station would be. In car GPS was not good at calculating that.

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    10 months ago

    I’ll say that a 1400 mile road trip on a holiday weekend in the snow in an EV that isn’t known for its road tripping prowess is basically the worst case scenario.

    I don’t know how frequently you make such trips but that’s like a once a year thing for me. So a bit of inconvenience there is offset by the other 363 days of the year when my car is charged each morning in my garage.

    In a Model 3 in non-snowy weather my usual pace is a 10-15 minute stop every 2 hours or so of driving. With the Supercharger network on similar drives I have had lower costs as well.

    As others have mentioned usually charging to 100% along the way is slower than charging to 50-60% and continuing on. The percentage at which charging slows down depends on your car. Some chargers charge per minute instead of per kWh so those longer charge sessions may have contributed to the cost.

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      10 months ago

      basically the worst case scenario

      He/She could have rented a Bolt or Nero.

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      10 months ago

      A trip like that is once a year but we do frequently make 400 mile trips. That seems possible if we could find reliable fast chargers on the way.

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      10 months ago

      FWIW, I got an Ionic 6 about a month ago. While waiting to get my home charger installed, I charge 12 hours overnight with the included L1 charger, at a rate of 0.6 kw per hour. Once a week, I go to the nearby Electrify America charging station to juice up. From 30% to 60%, it charges at about 125 kw/hr. From 60 to 80, it slows to about 80 kw/hr. The one time I tried to go to 90%, as soon as I hit 80%, it slowed to 5 kw/hr. I disconnected.

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    10 months ago

    I use to have to road trip between offices in some of those cities. That would not be fun. Gas stations were even pretty far apart

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    10 months ago

    I shaved off a few hours by always running the car down to the last couple miles and charging it to 100%.

    This actually increased the amount of time spent charging. 10-60%, maybe 70% is the sweet spot on the EQB 300.

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    10 months ago

    Thanks for the honest review. That is quite expensive for the mileage you traveled. Even at a modest 3mi/kw, you should have only used about 467kw. Tesla Supercharger rates in my midwestern area are typically 0.37/kw, which would have cost you $173 for the trip.

    As others have mentioned, stopping your charging at 80-90% might have saved you considerable time vs going all the way to 100%. That’s the nature of EV charging curves. In the end, if you need to “cannonball” a lot of distance in a limited number of hours, ICE may still be your best bet at this point.

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      10 months ago

      I think you’re being generous here with the mileage. 3 mi/kwh isn’t modest for the EQB, much less in the frigid Midwest. I’m assuming OP was using heat generally with the kids and probably got close to 2 mi/kwh .

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        10 months ago

        Right, the EQB is a brick. Going by OP number, it was $289 and assuming $0.43 per KW, that’s 672kWh. For 1400 miles that’s 2.0 miles/kwh.

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    10 months ago

    Dc fast charging generally do not save you much if any money. The real savings comes from charging at home.

    I will be honest on road trips ICE is just easier. I take my EV because it is the nicer car but road tripping it is generally more inconvenience.

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    10 months ago

    The EQB is a short-range car with slow charging compared to something like a Tesla or the new Kia.

    Chargers for the Mercedes are half as available as they are for a Tesla Model S and the range is barely half and it charges at half the speed. Overall, you’d have had a much more pleasant experience in a Tesla.

    Then you chose to charge to 100% (which means almost 1 hour charging stops, yikes).

    The “cannonball run” across the US is won by a Model S, which drives down to 5% and then charges up to about 60%. Above that, it slows down a lot.

    That makes for 15-20 minute charging stops.

    At least you didn’t end up in a Mazda or a Chevy Bolt, they’re far worse for road trips than the Mercedes, but the Mercedes is a decidedly bad road trip EV.

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      10 months ago

      The EQB is a short-range car with slow charging compared to something like a Tesla or the new Kia.

      Also compared to dedicated Mercedes BEVs like EQS and EQE. The EQB was always an afterthought.

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    10 months ago

    I should totally teach a masters class on this topic, The number of folks that get twisted in this area, is astounding.

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    10 months ago

    I can run a Bolt EV on a road trip in 40% more time than would take an ICE vehicle.

    Your charging strategy was not optimal for the EQB.

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    10 months ago

    OP, I’m sorry but it is on you to do your research before planning such a long trip during the busiest travel season of the year (especially in Midwest winter)

    No matter what, that experience was going to be rough. Expectations needed to be tempered and you should have planned accordingly.

    Some things that you should take note of, which some other users have already written out:

    • EQB is not a good road trip vehicle. Has slow charging and pedestrian range. Combine that with cold weather, the amount of stops was going to eat into your trip a lot regardless.

    • Charging curves are a thing. It differs per vehicle, but in general, the higher SOC you get to, the slower the charge will be. Charging from 10-80% will be roughly the same if not faster than charging from 80-100%. Not only did you spend more time charging than needed, but you also may have clogged a charging spot for others (bigger deal with non-Tesla than Tesla SC) I get that range anxiety is a thing, but if everyone on the road charges like that, it makes the experience for everyone worse. There’s a reason why cars get charged idle fees.

    • EA charging you $50 is likely a holding fee, and will be changed to the correct amount shortly. I had this happen too, and saw the correct amount charged in a few days. Honestly, not on you here, but just a PSA since it’s a common question that gets brought up.

    Not harping on you specifically, as non-Teslas just aren’t there for road tripping in general, but some prior research and planning could have made it a bit easier.

    • Phil517@alien.topOPB
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      10 months ago

      Yeah i know for next time. It was a rental so I didn’t have much time to research it beforehand. Kind of just got it and left. It seems I made a number of mistakes including choosing a not ideal vehicle and improper charging.

      Oh man, now i feel bad bc there were two occasions where I charged to 100 with other vehicles waiting.

      With EA, I was rounding. It was $48 and change. I think i was price gouged bc that location was the only one around.

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        10 months ago

        Oh man, now i feel bad bc there were two occasions where I charged to 100 with other vehicles waiting.

        Don’t worry, we live and learn. EV charging is still in a very early stage, and more complicated than it should be.

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    10 months ago

    We wanted to buy an EV but wanted to see how they fair on road trips in the midwest.

    You rented one of the worst road-tripping EVs made; don’t allow that to turn you off from EVs in general. The EQB 300 is a low-efficiency first-generation EV from a company that is only recently getting into EV production. And it uses a charging network renowned for its poor reliability. And the icing on the cake is doing 0-to-100% charging, which is hurting your overall driving time tremendously. But I am sure the on-board route planner wasn’t really helping matters since Mercedes’ software is so poor.

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      10 months ago

      Never knew a Tesla Model 3 is able to drive at 266 mph…

      • The actual trip in an EQE would be 23:45h of which are 3:52h spent charging ( 8 stops)
      • In the Model 3 LR this would be 21:56h of which are 2:23h spent charging (8 stops also)

      Not really night and day, is it?