Space Karen doesn’t like hybrids and wants to speak to the manager
Yeah because the hybrids are affordable.
What’s Elon’s opinion of another company’s model matter?
Lol still less growth than EV sales tho
I mean EVs are the emerging market, but their growth has been slowing down with EVs staying on dealer lots longer than other cars. I think we’re starting to see a bit of a taper off in EV market saturation. That can change if major advancements like solid state batteries change the pricing dramatically or improve range so much that current EV owners swap and people with range anxiety take the leap. But EV tech benefits PHEV as well. Imagine an affordable PHEV that does 80-100 miles on electric alone?
I am glad i chose hybrid instead of EV, specially in cold winter conditions you just cant rely only of one energy source. Having Hybrid gives me best of both world.
I think the best way to have an EV is as a second household car. For example, a couple that needs 2 cars. Having one gas/hybrid and one EV works perfectly in my opinion. Having only EVs just feel is a bad idea unless you live in a place with a lot of chargers available (which i don’t, south Louisiana).
Even then, you’d want the electric only as a gimmick/hobby vehicle. A toyota hybrid is just economical in every way imaginable from manufacturing, to running it on the daily.
I agree. The EV would be a great second vehicle. Personally, i own and drive a 2023 CR-V hybrid and i love it. I cant even imagine how annoying it would be owning an EV only right now.
It’s kind of the opposite. The EV is our primary car & the PHEV is the summer road trip vehicle.
Long vs shot distance. EV is a golf cart in the winter.
Again, i live in south louisiana. Our winters are 32° on the worst days, and on those days everything shuts down. Also, thats when the gas car comes into play.
I just use my bolt to commute and the wife uses a navigator for the road trips and kiddos or in case of emergencies.
Or just get a plug-in prime and have the best of both worlds in one car? 😂
Also you won’t have heat in a EV unless it has a radiator.
Eh, I don’t think so, being from Alaska and having only two teslas in the household (X and 3 LR) they do great in the cold. The charging infrastructure sure could be better, but this is mostly just a mental block rather than an actual issue for people in cold climates.
We went below freezing this week and I’m really feeling my first winter with an EV. My car has consumed 34% more energy on my regular commute this week compared to a few weeks ago
Thanks for sharing. That’s one of that pain points, Be in Winter, Off road or any other extreme conditions, EV is still has long way to develop the tech
That’s very interesting to hear, thanks for sharing. I’d rather be in a 90s shit box in freezing temps than an EV it sounds like
I like having a plug in hybrid. I haven’t purchased gas since the first weekend in October.
I will say there is a time and place for all vehicle types, but my thirst for an EV has only been increased by owning a phev. The ev aspects of are amazing. That being said, if I had 50 miles of range on my phev I’d be preeettty happy with it. I get like 15.
I love EVs and I do think they will be the future BUT they need more time to develop the tech and infrastructure. I would love to see every new car being sold as a hybrid in the meantime as a stop gap measure while it develops.
I’d love to have a RAV4 Prime but the practicality of me owning one plus the locations I’d be taking it to, I’d have difficulty in being able to take full advantage of the PHEV part.
The truth is that for most people, day-to-day driving only requires them to have 30-40 miles of range, if that. As battery technology improves I’d fully expect even smaller/cheaper batteries to have 100 miles of range (depending on the car) which gives them even more flexibility when combined with a small and efficient engine which can be used to extend range to an almost limitless degree.
Of course Musk’s recent behavior will also have played a major role in souring many people on a Tesla, if not other electric vehicles.
In all honesty I wouldn’t buy a Testla from him for the same reason I wouldn’t buy a Volkswagen from Hitler.
This comparison is disturbing for a number of reasons…
Reddit moment. Comparing the richest guy on earth to a guy that killed 6 million Jews
WTF is the Afronomist? No sources cited, either.
It’s the PC version of what everyone knows it’s a knockoff of.
Well musk is a bit silly.
He gets a lot of shots, but also misses a few imo
I for one would love to buy the new Prius Prime, but it is impossible to get one at MSRP.
I absolutely LOVE my Rav4 Prime. IMO the plug in hybrids are the best way to do an EV at the moment. Plenty of battery for all electric driving back and forth to work, errands, and local trips, but I don’t have to plan around charging stations if I’m going anywhere long distance. I usually get about 2000+ miles per tank of fuel, and it’s great not feeling the pressure of NEEDING to refuel or run out of gas. I can refuel at my leisure. I love the idea of an all electric vehicle, but until the infrastructure is in place and more accessible the hybrids are gonna be king.
We are obsessed with our RAV4 prime too. Its perfect. EV/Gas range perfect. Speed/4WD/MPG perfect. Interior/Cargo space perfect. Upgrades/amenities perfect. And there’s even a bonus 110V outlet in the back which gives you access to the battery pack. We can’t stop raving about it.
Just to temper the conclusions,'isn’t the majority of Toyotas lineup hybridized now? Makes sense that people buying Toyotas, which are solid af cars, are buying hybrids. I personally wish Toyota would’ve hybridized everything sooner. Of course, that’s with me speaking as a consumer and not as a producer. Easy to say “make more of xyz” from my computer chair.
Fuck elon…. I’ll never buy his shit