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  • Dave@lemmy.nzOPM
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    11 months ago

    After someone recently deleted their account and a bunch of posts completely disappeared, I’ve been thinking about the daily posts. I’ve always been against having a bot post them, as I feel like having a person post them is an indication that someone is interested in a chat, and you know if you post in the diaily post that at least one person is following and interested.

    However, if the person who posted the post then later deletes their account, the post is gone.

    Anyone have thoughts on if this is ok, or if we should be using a bot account so the content is preserved? (of course people could still delete their comments if they wanted to - but this work prevent the OP from deleting all the content).

    Another down side of using a bot is that Lemmy lets you disable seeing bot posts, so if you have this then you wouldn’t see the post.

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      11 months ago

      Can you remove bot posts from everyone that is non-local?

      Or potentially whitelist a specific bot?

      • Dave@lemmy.nzOPM
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        11 months ago

        It’s a per user setting. In your user settings, there’s just one option:

        setting with checkbox ticked with name of setting "Show bot accounts"

        It’s enabled by default, but you can disable it. You can’t only whitelist local bots or anything like that. In theory you could just not mark the bot account as a bot, but that seems wrong.

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          11 months ago

          On the one had it would be good to have a consistent time for the daily post, however I definitely use that setting to filter out all the bot auto posting articles and reddit posts…

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      11 months ago

      Haven’t been following Lemmy development recently, but are there moves to change how deleting posts works? It seems a bit shit that someone can just delete entire threads. If they want to delete their own posts, then fine, but they shouldn’t be able to memory hole all the replies.

      I am not too worried about bots posting discussion threads. Sometimes there are probably people who might post in the discussion threads but don’t want to create the thread.

      Potentially you wouldn’t have to mark it as a bot? Since it only ever posts on your server, you don’t have to require it to be marked as a bot. People can always block that account if they really want to.

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        11 months ago

        Haven’t been following Lemmy development recently, but are there moves to change how deleting posts works? It seems a bit shit that someone can just delete entire threads. If they want to delete their own posts, then fine, but they shouldn’t be able to memory hole all the replies.

        I’m not aware of any real functional changes to Lemmy being worked on. I’m also a bit out of the loop, but they are working on 0.19 and I’m pretty sure it’s backend stuff like a rewrite of the API.

        Potentially you wouldn’t have to mark it as a bot? Since it only ever posts on your server, you don’t have to require it to be marked as a bot. People can always block that account if they really want to.

        It just seems wrong 😆. I guess if there were no objections we could do this. You’re right, so long as we stay in our corner, it shouldn’t affect others too much. It would still be a bot post showing in All for many people, though.

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            11 months ago

            That’s just comments, right? So if you delete a comment, currently all sub-comments are lost but this would fix that.

            I have a brief read through but it didn’t seem like they were targeting post removal.

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              Yes, it only seems to talk about comments. But it seems to me the intention is not to delete entire threads when someone deletes their account (which is good, because it doesn’t make any sense to do that). Whether the changes will fix it for posts I’m not sure, but it seems like they’ll fix it eventually anyway.

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                11 months ago

                Yeah it does sound like it, so perhaps it’s ok how we are doing it at the moment.

                As an admin I can see the deleted posts still. The post itself is permanently deleted, but the comments are still visible to me, so a change in the future should be able to correct this retrospectively.