Just arrived to Florida for a 2 week stint. Prior to arriving we had booked a compact car rental through Dollar (via Expedia). Didn’t know we were getting an EV, but that’s what we got without paying more (scummy tactics, but that’s an aside).

So we have this Chevy Bolt, which is actually kinda cool and enjoyable to drive. However, we’re definitely not going to go far on a charge and will need to refill at least a few times.

Downloaded Plugshare, and looked for charging stations close to our hotel (which unfortunately does not have charging). OMG I feel sick to my stomach at what charging is going to cost us. Nearby chargers are “$5 fee plus $0.50/minute” or even “$10 per hour”.

Any advice for how to make this EV rental at least as cost effective as a gas car?

  • droids4evr@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    What part of Florida? We go to a few different spot around Florida and don’t typically see charging costs that high.

    Electrify America is usually $0.48/kwh, which in a Bolt works out around $15-20/hr but should get you back to at least 80% SoC within an hour.

    And most Level 2 chargers we see are like $2.00/hr, maybe with like a $5.00 base session fee. But We also find a lot of free charepoint locations around shopping centers, city buildings, or university/school campuses.

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    10 months ago

    High speed will impact your range the most 65-70 isn’t too bad but beyond that your power usage goes up considerably.

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    10 months ago

    Thanks all. This is helpful. I was under the assumption it would take me like 9 hours to charge this thing from empty. Maybe that’s not the case if I find a good charger.

    I’ll look for Electrify America or Chargepoint. I won’t bother charging past 80%.

    For those asking, I’m in Naples and will be making the drive to West Palm Beach. A bit nervous about that distance since it’ll get me close to empty. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all…

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      10 months ago

      Look into hypermiling or how to get better mileage. I don’t mean drive 20 MPH and draft trucks, but just the basics so you can make minor tunes to your habits.

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    10 months ago

    $10 dollars an hour is a bargain if that’s a level 3 charger (a DC fast charger). The math is somewhat complex (you take the watt delivery from the charger versus the battery size, then convert into miles per dollar, then take the expected miles per gallon of an equivalent gasoline car and take the current average price of gas to convert into miles per dollar), but you’ll see you’re winning.

    The numbers suck if that’s a level 2 charger (an AC charger), though, unless it was connected to medium voltage.

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    10 months ago

    which is actually kinda cool and enjoyable to drive

    It’s only fun until you need to charge, if you’ve been slammed into a rental EV.

    I urge you: Get into full Incredible Hulk angry and return the car to the nearest location and take a gas car. You’re just going to repeat all the same novice mistakes. Just return the car now before it poisons you for EVs forever.

    our hotel (which unfortunately does not have charging)

    No. That does not work. This is the root of your pain. Charging at the hotel is absolutely critical to travel success with an EV. It brings the car to 100% while you sleep and is typically free. Every single non-consensual renter who’s come on here has been “I can’t (don’t want to) change hotels”. Of course you don’t, but refusal will be costly.

    OMG I feel sick to my stomach at what charging is going to cost us.

    But on the bright side, you don’t have to change hotels! LOL! Seriously. This mentality “I won’t change hotel” is corrosive. It’s going to force you to chunk out 2-3 hours out of every day to go deal with charging. You might be able to parley it into a family outing to a restaurant, but it’ll take planning and luck. Better to use PlugShare and its reviews (and a phone) to pick a better hotel.

    Nearby chargers are “$5 fee plus $0.50/minute” or even “$10 per hour”.

    Those private charge stations - e.g. who intend it for internal or customer use, but will begrudgingly help a traveler in a jam. Thus the price is deterrent mode. Treat these stations as if they do not exist.

    Set a few filters in PlugShare: Turn off plugs you can’t use - Tesla(fast), and Tesla if a Tesla Tap wasn’t provided. Also go “Hide restricted access” to cross off many private sites.

    As far as stations that really want to be players in public charging, look for many stalls - I see City Mattress at 2421 Tarpon Bay Blvd in the Target parking lot near Chilis and Panera (and more restaurants on the wrong side of a non-crossable road) – and Electrify America at 9885 Collier Blvd in the Walmart parking lot near another Chilis and a few other restaurants. These are both DC fast chargers, going 50 kW on a Bolt, so ~1 hour to charge. These are orange in PlugShare. “Walmart and Target are too far, I don’t want to spend an hour there” -> but again, think of the money you’re saving on hotels! Seriously, carefully research what is nearby and find a way to include activities. Do not sit there at or in the vehicle, go do something!

    In Palm Beach they’re all over the place. Look for the orange in Plugshare.

    And these stations are going to be pretty much break-even with the cost of gasoline.

    A warning about Electrify America: they’re owned by Volkswagen, and they convinced several automakers to give away X years of free electricity with new cars. As such, EA stations tend to be choked with locals only there for the free juice. Don’t go “there’s a queue of 8 cars at the EA station, surely all will be the same” - nope, only EA.