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It’d be nice if they’d release a model with support for more US/NA bands.
oh sounds nice for someone
keeps scrolling on iphone, while sending emails on mac, shackled to the apple ecosystem with no desire to leave
But I don’t want to repair it myself
Their phones are ridiculously expensive middle tier specced machines.
If you want to be taken seriously, please offer better hardware at more reasonable prices.
If you take 5 years of warranty and 8 years of SW support into consideration, the 700€ pricetag is actually very competitive. How much money do you spend in the same time frame on other smartphones? 1000? 2000?
I got a Samsung s20 for 400. The s23 is right now for the same price on Google fi
Less than 700? You can get a equally good phone for 350€ and upgrade after 3 years and at least the second generation is gonna be better than the Fairphone. The only point for the FP is that it has a headphone jack, which I really like, but apart from that its cheaper to go with cheap midrange phone and upgrade after 2 1/2 or 3 years
how many child slaves are you willing to sacrifice for a lower price?
This is cool. So I suppose you are posting this from a fair phone, or are you a hypocrite?
yes i am lol. but thats irrelevant. i don’t want the best bang for buck, because i know it fucks over the environment and people working on it.
Not condoning child labor, but in these countries, aren’t the children better off with the labor option over no option? Just wondering how these children survive otherwise?
fairphone is providing them with another option. so your argument just isn’t relevant. and i wasn’t talking about jobs, i was talking about slavery. they couldn’t work a job if they wanted to, or go to school, or whatever. child slaves make clothing and electronics for the west to suppress prices.
Yeah, give us high-end, sustainable, and ethical stuff at low prices while successfully competing against big tech. And I want my phone powered by fairy dust!
Theres your problem with Fairphone (and Framework laptop). All those modularity costs $$$ AND made sacrifices for sake of repairability. For that price, it’s just not a good value.
depends on your needs my dude
It’s not a good value if you don’t care about repairability and upgradability.
If you do, the value increases tremendously.
Yes and if Steve Jobs thought like you, you would be typing this in a blackberry.
Of course this can be done. Look at Framework. They are pushing out laptops that have most of the characteristics I am talking about. They are slightly more expensive than an equivalent Lenovo.
Did you really just simp for Apple while unironically calling another brand “ridiculously expensive”? Also, Framework is nice but they don’t seem to specifically care about ethically sourcing their materials.
Simp for apple? You just assumed a bunch of stuff. My phone is a Samsung s20. It cost 400.
Are you ChatGPT or do you just naturally not care about what you wrote one comment ago?
I am not going to argue with stupid. Connect the dots yourself.
Makes you wonder how expensive other phones would be if they’d pay fair wages to their factory workers…
Or data mining! That’s one of the main ones.
With phones like Fairphone, you’re buying a lot more into an ideology than an actual product for the price. Are there other phones that are better specced and cheaper? Yes. Are those phones created in a more ethical manner by lowering emissions and not using conflict materials? More than likely no.
On top of this, you’re also getting a modular repairable phone and 5 years of support - which for mid level android is a miracle.
please offer better hardware at more reasonable prices
That means glued together phones which are not repairable made with questionable practices, which is what everyone else is doing.
The glue is for waterproofing, do you want your phone to be bricked after some light rain?
No the rubber gaskets are for water proofing, the glue is for holding things together without requiring dead space on the PCB for screw holes or dead space inside the case for plastic standoffs
The rubber gaskets are glued on. The glue holds the battery, which has pull strops which allows you to remove it easily.
Edit: it’s pretty much like Phonebloks which was introduced in 2013 https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/phonebloks-smartphone-s-future-may-be-modular-dan-misener-1.1857440
Never made it to market. Curious how this will fare nonetheless
What do you mean? It’s on its 5th version. Fairphone 4 is still supported after 5 or more years, and then there’s community. I only wish it had smaller cost, $$200–300.
My FP3 just got an update a couple of days ago 🤷♂️
I think, me meant Phonebloks, which it never made to market
its nothing like that.
Unfortunately, their phones are supported by Verizon’s network.
Great network coverage and speed but terrible company
Luckily the UK doesn’t have Verizon
having worked with Vz in the past, it is a miracle they support any band.
I can barely put a screen protector on. Imma pass
I find putting a screen protector on hard, but have zero problems fixing a phone or building a PC.
Putting on a screen protector makes me feel like I’m the protagonist in an action film trying to disarm a bomb. One wrong move and the entire thing is fucked. I could wipe the screen down isopropyl a dozen times, inspect it another two dozen times and see there is nothing there. But then the moment I try to put that screen protector on, there is somehow a life time supply of fuzz and specs of bullshit on there that I notice while I already have the thing halfway applied. So that distracts me trying to get that shit out of there and now my protector is going on crooked and I get a bubble or two. I just can’t ever get it right.
Capitalism and sustainability are two words that rarely end up in the same sentence.
You can capitalize on parts. Look at the PC industry vs laptops
My USB c port stopped working, took me a few minutes and I paid 15€ for the replacement.
Doubt.
I’m betting hours including watching the tutorial.
If I wanted I could stop typing right now, turn my phone around and have that usb C port replaced within 5 minutes.
Have done it before on my boyfriend’s fairphone 4 and no doubt your average user could do it within half a hour.
That’s also the case for any phone.
if you take care of your phone then it will be electronic waste because cell towers don’t support it anymore before it actually breaks.
Your phone will literally turn to rust before your charging port should break from use. A glass screen should never scratch unless you carry lose diamonds in your pocket.
That’s also the case for any phone.
it just isnt.
Good luck getting the back off most modern phones without a heatgun and replacement adhesive
Would this phone be a good introduction to hardware assembly for kids? Kinda like legos?
If you want hardware assembly get a few old notebooks that would be thrown away either way. Kids tend to break stuff when learning and I don’t think you’d want them to do that to an actual phone that is intended for further use.
A Laptop is also much larger than the phones and there are more components to learn about and play around with.
My two cents.
Good plan. I actually got them one of those really cheap pinebooks a couple of years back but their mom said they needed a windows laptop so I got to keep it. Might give it now anyway.
What the fuck are you on about?
Your comment makes literally no sense in any way. A port can break really easily and why is a phone rusting a benchmark for you? Why did you bring up the screen? Do you know anything about phones?
Humidity, heat changes, and oxidizstion is literally the only thing that should kill a phone nowadays, usb c last for 50 years of normal charging, screens are practically indestructible.
There is no reason your phone should break before cell towers stop supporting it.
You have obviously not seen the phone, you open up the backside to remove the battery and then you have 6 screws for the part I wanted to swap (just like you can do with back camera ram and so many things) put the new one in and screwed it back. They also offer 5 years warranty for anything you don’t want to change yourself or if there’s a bigger problem.
I swear if people learn to repair their phones and not their cars ima be pissed!
If I do something wrong with my phone it won’t potentially explode killing me and my family.
I’ve worked on cars a little bit and computers/tech a lot, and the only stuff I’ve made smoke has been computer related
Well, first step would be for me to have a car. But even if I had one I’d be pretty hard pressed to lift it up on my table and just open it. Makes it a bit more difficult from the start.
A spudger is way easier to improvise than an oxy torch
Can’t wait for the buyout or the lawsuit that bankrupts the company. /s
/s but /irl
TL;DR: it sucks
Love the idea but I’m too deep with Apple’s software. To convert I’d need some magic functionality reason.
Aims to reduce global electronic waste by forcing you to buy their wireless headphones which can’t be repaired, and removing the headphone jack
I don’t think anyone buys this claim anymore
Here is the follow up video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAogtqyN22M
They did go into that and it was in fact about internal space.
Sounds like a design flaw. The Qualcomm QCM6490 isn’t a top-end chip, so they can’t use cooling as an excuse, when an Xperia 1 V manages to fit enough cooling for a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 and a jack in practically the same size. This industry really needs more competition that’s repair friendly and has all the features, without following trends mindlessly.
what it doesn’t manage is not being glued and being modular. both require space. good luck replacing your usb-c port on that one or god forbid your screen, if you can even get an ODM part.
I love my Xperia
I have an Xperia 1 IV. Not without its flaws, but it fits all my requirements, and I don’t mind the weird DSLR-like cameras one wouldn’t expect from a phone.
I think it was something about battery size. If I can find their statement I’ll share it
The phone I mentioned also has a bigger battery capacity. I guess repairability brings some space inefficiency since you need to make all the components accessible.
Yup, screws and tabs take up more space than glue unfortunately. I’m not happy about the loss of the headphone jack, but I’d take a repairable phone from a company that has staying power than a comparable phone that isn’t repairable with a headphone jack.
If their aim was to reduce waste they shouldn’t have made anything i the first place.
Peak logic right here! /s