PHOENIX (AP) – The 2024 presidential election is drawing an unusually robust field of independent, third party and long shot candidates hoping to capitalize on Americans’ ambivalence and frustration over a likely rematch between Democrat Joe Biden and Republican Donald Trump.

  • Blackbeard@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If a Trump presidency doesn’t scare the shit out of them at this point, then they were already looking for excuses to support him, and “I want someone to vote FOR” is just a stupid excuse.

    Like, I want a gazillion dollars and a private island, but I also don’t smear shit on the walls of the public library when I wake up and don’t get those things. Anyone who does, just wanted to smear shit on the walls.

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      Yup. It is basically the same as how Romney and Cheney are “good republicans” because they want all the same shit trump does but want to pretend they are classier than that

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      I haven’t seen Dark Brandon in a while. Like, months.

      I vote FOR Dark Brandon. I’ll give Biden my vote over Trump. Those are different things, even if the objective measure looks the same.

      I’d like to vote for DB and get him.

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        Hey man, the dude has enough sense to understand that between the situations in Ukraine and Israel, the world is in a fucked up place at the moment. He’s a lifelong statesman, and he’s probably telling his more aggressive political advisors to back the hell off so we can figure out what the hell is going on and maybe get our hostages to safety. I respect him for that, and I’m not entirely convinced that being combative or bellicose would be even remotely helpful right now, despite the fact that it would make you feel better in the here and now.

        So you don’t get Dark Brandon exactly when you want him? And you have to wait…checks notes…a few months? Tough shit. If you have to wait months for him to come out, imagine how many decades you’re going to wait for the institutions of this country to recover from this. If “I had to wait months for Dark Brandon” is enough for you to waffle on the gravity of your decision in 2024, then you were already lost before this conversation started.

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          To be fair to OP, I’ve seen “Dark Brandon” more as a meme to vex conservatives, used when Biden accomplishes a one of his policies, and particularly when fighting to get student loans forgiven.

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            This.

            Dark Brandon gets policy wins, judges in seats, he moves things. He gets funding for Ukraine.

            I haven’t seen as much of that.

            Israel isn’t something I agree as much with him on, but that’s not what I was talking about.

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          It’s been a few days so this thread should largely be inert.

          I’m not sure who you were replying to because it wasn’t me.

          I said nothing about Israel. I said I’d give him my vote. Your tone was dismissive to someone who wrote what you wanted to read, but I did not say or imply.

          Not interested in a flame war, only discussion. If you respond with hostility or more bad faith, you’ll get the last word - I’ll not reply.

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            Joe Biden and Dark Brandon are the same person. You’re splitting rhetorical hairs for the sake of argumentation, based largely on a meme, and there’s no need for me to substantially respond to what is largely a meaningless assertion. You just refuse to give Biden credit for Dark Brandon’s accomplishments, which is insane.

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              I used a rhetorical device to easily distinguish what excites me about him being president versus what’s meh. It worked and works.

              Most people know they aren’t going to see a DB meme for the Israel topic *that you introduced from… Somewhere? *

              He’s chalked up wins and I know he’ll end up with L’s. But I prefer seeing him using his political capital on the economy, green energy, trust busting, courts… The virtuous things Roosevelts did.

              You keep implying I said something I didn’t and your post history is argumentative. Smart, but too many elbows. This will be my last reply.

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                You made an assertion that amounts to little more than “I like him when he does some things, but not when he does others.”

                No shit, sherlock. That’s how all of this works. You want a cookie?

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      Anyone not terrified of a Republican and/or Trump presidency has a shitton of privilege and needs to fucking check it. Cishet, white and men are prominent demographics for “he won’t hurt me too badly” and by the time the redcaps come for those not in lockstep it’ll be far, far too late.