I see so much disdain for pickups here on r/cars but figured this would be a good comparison to do as these are consistently the two best selling vehicles year after year.

I’ll get the why out of the way first. I bought both of these because I’ve always liked trucks. I don’t actually need their capability anymore than I needed my C7 with the Z51 package and 3.whatever to 60/over 1G cornering capability or the 392 Hemi in my Charger that averaged worse mpg than both of these. I wanted a comfortable, large vehicle with a massive back seat and a V8. Really no justification other than I wanted it just like all of the other unnecessary vehicles I’ve owned.

These two aren’t a perfect match trim for trim but it’s relatively close. The Silverado was a 2021 LT Trail Boss 6.2L that was completely optioned out minus the sunroof. This truck had a ton of issues that GM wouldn’t acknowledge or fix and I was luckily able to sell it to Carvana for more than I paid four months and 6,500 miles later.

The F150 is a 2023 XLT 302A FX4 with the 5.0 and 3.73 electronic locking rear end.

I’ll discuss powertrains first as I’ve now owned three 6.2 LT powered vehicles and three Coyote powered vehicles. The Chevy had a better programmed transmission. It was butter smooth and never once had a rough shift even when cold. The Ford’s 10 speed is just as good once warm and you’re tipping into the throttle but will sometimes deliver a clunky shift at low speeds especially when cold.

The engine performance surprised me a bit because the difference in torque is much less pronounced here than it was between my two Mustangs and Camaro/Corvette. I credit this to the Ford’s 3.73 rear vs the Chevy’s 3.23 and the Gen 3/4 Coyotes massive power increase over the gen 1 and 2 my Mustangs had. The 6.2 has more low end. It’s noticeable but the 5.0 will easily move this truck around under 2k rpms. It’s also redlines at 6,800 rpms vs the 6.2s 5,500 and sounds so much better. Get on the gas under a bridge and the exhaust echos sound like a quieter Mustang GT. The 6.2 sounds nice too but it’s that generic truck V8 sound and no exhaust note to speak of. Just like in the cars, I think the 6.2 is the “better” engine but I’ll personally pick the Coyote every time due to that hard pull all the way to redline. I averaged 18 mpg with the Silverado and 19 in the F150 both on 93.

My Silverado had the pre refresh interior so I won’t dog on it too much. It was bad. The new design is similar ergonomically and I’ll just flat out give the interior win to the Ford. I’m trying to think of even one area I liked better in the Chevy. The column shifter was nicer than Ford’s. My F150 has the console shifter that will fold flat. I thought it was a gimmick but it came in handy when I needed to fill out paperwork. The lowered door sill and mirrors provide better visibility in the Ford. As well as the lower dash board. Seat comfort is much better. I haven’t had constant CarPlay connectivity issues or nonstop rattles like in the Chevy yet. Both have absolutely massive cabins.

Both of these trucks have their respective trick tailgates optioned. I liked the Silverado’s version better. It folded into more useful configurations and came standard with a very nice bed liner. I needed to return a damaged 7 ft barbell when I had the Silverado and the multi folding tailgate made that a breeze.

Ride and handling is pretty different. The Silverado had a smoother ride but could be bouncy on the highway. The F150 in comparison has a borderline rough ride but feels more planted and stable. The Silverado had tighter steering. By that I mean the steering ratio seems higher in the Ford.

One thing that really frustrates me about Ford is how they gatekeep options behind trim levels. The XLT is the volume trim yet you have to move up to a Lariat to get the auto 4wd and heated steering wheel. Both of which are available in the LT trim Silverado and comparable Ram.

Overall I think the Ford is the much better designed truck. I formed that opinion within 30 seconds of sitting in the driver seat and continue to feel that way every time I drive it. I do think the Silverado is good enough post refresh that it would be the better truck for someone with a different use case than me and should still be in the running.

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      10 months ago

      My only experience with a current gen Ram is a rental I had. The 5.7 is a dog compared to the 6.2 and 5.0. It rides better than both of these though. Drives more like a big car than a truck.

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      10 months ago

      Have a 2021 F-150 and had a rental Ram a while back.

      The Ram powertrain is amazing from a low end torque and transmission perspective. Options and build quality wise though, it was garbage. Already had cracked plastics and rattles everywhere, fuel economy was atrocious (14/19 city/hwy) compared to my Ford, infotainment was meh, and the shape of the hood blocked so much of the view towards the front.

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      10 months ago

      I have a 2017 Ram 1500 Bighorn V8 and it’s one of my favorite vehicles I’ve ever owned.

      Tows fine, has RIDICULOUS amounts of storage (one of my favorite things because i have a ton of tools i don’t use everyday but still need), and plenty of power for work.

      But also doubles up as an phenomenal daily. One of the unique things about Ram is ride quality and handling. It gets brought up every now and then but it’s super unique in that regard. They drive like cars instead of trucks. Additionally it’s spacious and packed with all the creature comfort features of a modern luxury.

      The biggest thing is the price point though. You can the same features of alot of the high end trucks for a fraction of price. I’m not saying their cheap but you get alot of bang for your buck.

      Reliability is the big concern but personally I’m 140k+ with nothing but regular matientence and I actually use it for work. However I might just be lucky in this regard.

      Overall though, I think it’s a great choice for the kind of person that needs utility for work but also wants something nice to haul their family around in.

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        Reliability gets bandied about as a whole brand, but you have to remember the context that it’s in comparison to the aggregate. So like, 98% of F150s will be flawless vs 93% of Ram 1500s so Ram gets the reputation for being less reliable. Not exact numbers but you get the point. They’re still the 3rd best seller for a reason. When you sell hundreds of thousands of vehicles even if 1% have issues that’s going to be a lot of vehicles.