At the moment i have a 13700f and it looks like i have a cpu bottleneck with my current gpu (a 4090) and im not sure what would be the best option for upgrading since im also a bit flat on money now since i got my new gpu
Also im not sure if the prices here in my country are high but the 13900k is about 700 USD and the 14900k is about 800usd and the 14700k is about 500usd.
14700k if you don’t need to do work with software related stuff, 14900k if you just wanna do everything.
13th gen doesn’t have APO so forget about that.
Also 13700 is fine, no need for an upgrade at least for another 5-7 years.
Nothing should be bottlenecking generally either way unless you’re running a demanding game at 4k or doing some processor-heavy stuff.
13900k for sure , 14900 is a disaster Gen , The same architecture and more expensive , Also the 14700k on the power efficiency consumes the almost the same like the 13900k or 14900k and with worse performance , So would recommand you to take the 13900k
lol wtf is this nonsense man.
From a 13700F, the 14700K is 9% faster single-thread and 31% faster multi-thread (it literally has more cores)
The 14900K is 12% faster single-thread and 50%!!! faster multi-thread compared to 13700F
Doubt it’s the CPU. Max boost on those things is 5.2GHz stock boost. On 13700K it’s 5.3-5.4GHz and so forth. So you’re saying 200-600MHz is going to get rid of your bottleneck? It could very well be the game you’re playing is not optimized. Because compare them all:
13700F up to 5.2GHz stock boost 8/16 +8
13700K up to 5.4GHz stock boost 8/16 +8
14700K up to 5.6GHz stock boost 8/16 +12
13900K up to 5.8GHz stock boost 8/16 +16
14900K up to 6.0GHz stock boost 8/16 +16
So going from 5.2 to say 5.6-6.0GHz will not eliminate a bottleneck so there is something else, if you want to max out your GPU then go 4K. At 1440p you shouldn’t be getting a bottleneck and could just be the game you’re playing.
I wouldn’t upgrade unless you really need higher frame rates.
If you do upgrade, I’d buy the cheapest of the three as they’ll perform similarly. I would also consider the 13700k if you can save more.
You’ll need a substantial cooler especially if you want to overclock.
13700K vs 13700F is not worth the upgrade cost-wise. 14900K is the most cost-effective upgrade given it will yield 12% and 50% speed gains in single-thread and multi-thread applications, respectively
13700k is already pretty damn good you shouldn’t need to upgrade, you already have all 8 pcores.
But sure if you want you could get a 14700k or 14900k. Probably 14900k if you want to see a difference. But again, it will be small. You already have 95% of the gaming performance avaliable on the socket.
Are you sure you’re not experiencing, like a game engine limitation or something? What are you trying to do that you can’t?
But I have the 13700f not a k…
Its cuz whenever i play games after i switched my gpu i cant get higher than 70% utilisation on the gpu where my cpu is pushing all it can
Oh I see. Sorry I missed that. Yeah I suppose a 14700k wouldn’t be a bad upgrade since you can still get pretty good money for your existing cpu. Your all core boost would go from 5.1 to 5.5. Thats something. But just so you know, it can be hard to get 100% utilization out of the 4090 on any cpu, especially at lower resolutions.
Let’s assume you get a 14900K then, overclock it to 6 GHz P-cores using direct die cooling, and throw on 8000 MT/s DDR5 with a Z790 Apex Encore for good measure. You’re now somewhere around 30% faster in games than your previous setup, and GPU utilization will occasionally hit 90% instead of 70%
All for the neat sum of roughly 2000 USD
30% is also a bit generous.
Lol, true
a 14900K is about what? 5-10% faster? not worth it, wait a few months and buy a 8800X3D
Also… 14900K vs 13700F is 12% faster single-core and 50% faster multi-core.
and i say that an i9 is pointless as a 13900K owner, ill upgrade ASA 8800X3Ds are available
As a 13700F and 14900K owner I’ll say that I’ll be waiting to see how the 8800X3Ds actually perform before even thinking about getting one.
yeah… most people dont care about multithreading, and yeah, 12% st is important, but 8800X3D is said to deliver 20% better st? read that even 30% is possible, while being way way more efficient and like 30-40% better in gaming… 14900K is a waste of money if already have the 13700
lol 8800X3D requires basically a whole new computer
The difference is how well AMD supports their platform to be honest. AM5 could easily last someone ten years. I’d say it’s absolutely atleast worth considering. Until Intel abandons their current socket and platform changes I’ll absolutely never go back.
Just get a good cooler and overclock the 13700k. I’m currently at 5.9 ghz all core
But I have an f model and not a k model…
Also what’s the rest of your system look like. Ram speed ect?
Ahh I see. Didn’t catch that. What resolution do you play on ?
Im playing on 2560x1440p
Definitely not worth upgrading to any of those.
Benchmarks show a 3% difference between 13700k and 14700k in gaming. You will not appreciate a difference. Save your money
Insert Office meme … they’re the same cpu
If its actually no matter the price, and you have made up your mind to switch up, just get the 14900K - the i7’s are i9’s that couldn’t make it, and 14th gen is like a better binned 13th gen.
Buy a 4k display. The bottleneck will disappear.
The 13700 none k should be able to run similar to the 13700k. Does it manage to maintain a good boost clocks? If not you should be able to get a better cooler and adjust CPU and ram bios settings so that it should be good enough for a 4090. Struggling to believe you feel the need to upgrade with a 13700f.
There are plenty of YouTube videos that show about 5% difference between a 13700f and a 13900k in game. Does your setup perform better than average in 3d mark? I’m getting it off here the posts on this thread are insane.
I don’t see anyone asking about your cooler solution and what your cpu temperatures are. The 13700 can run hot, which can impact its performance.
The hot spots on it only hits 73°c and normal temps are from 55-67
My advice-
Just enjoy your game. There’s always something more you can do, always something better. Even if your rocking a 4090 and 7950x3d, 7800x3d, 14900k, 13900k, exc exc you will still find yourself pushing and wanting to see how much more you can get. I’ve been heavily debating doing a water loop on my build pretty much for the same reason you want a better processor. Just to see bigger numbers. Its not like your games are running poorly or unplayable. Not like your going to get more enjoyment and a better experience with a slightly faster CPU that can push a couple of extra frames.
Fomo is a bitch. Your goal of using the 4090 a long time like “the 1080ti ppl” is kinda counter productive to your goal of “upgrading” a 13th gen to a 14th gen CPU.
If you gonna do it, I feel like you’re probably going to kick yourself if you don’t get the 14900k. It’s really the only “upgrade” worth anything from where you are now and even that is debatable. To get anything less is extra pointless imo.
So well said
You have a resolution bottleneck.
Just crank up your numbers and the CPU bottleneck will be gone :)
Already tried that 😅 it didnt help sadly 😢
Turn off dllss or others and use up sampling if you thrive for 100% usage and wasting power
Tried what? 4k monitor?