Next generation (2025, 2026+) BEVs will be the tipping point for the auto industry.

When BEVs have 500 mile+ per charge capacity, charging infrastructure becomes abundant, and 350kW+ charging is ubiquitous (<15 min recharges), there will no longer be any value proposition for ICEs whatsoever (outside of hobbyists).

Amazing how fast the change is happening.

Agree or disagree?

  • Suntzu_AU@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    None of my ICE cars had a 800km range. Why would an EV need this extra range/weight?

    I think you are just speculating, which is fine.

    I think the tipping point will be mass adoption/availability of $35k USD 500km range EVs, probably solid state or sodium air batteries.

    My guess is about 2026.

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      10 months ago

      Why would an EV need this extra range/weight?

      Mainly to minimize charging time and charger availability concerns on long trips. If you only have to charge once or twice to get to a distant destination, that’s better than having to charge several times. Especially in remote areas where chargers may be scarce.

      Also, more buffer for circumstances like cold weather or towing. And a larger battery should last longer. So why wouldn’t you want all that, if weight and cost weren’t issues?

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        10 months ago

        So why wouldn’t you want all that, if weight and cost weren’t issues?

        Obviously you would want all that if weight and cost weren’t issues. The question is, do you think the tipping point won’t come until then? Because weight and cost are going to continue to be issues for years, maybe decades.

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          10 months ago

          The question is, do you think the tipping point won’t come until then?

          Good point. Given current trends, I’ll say that charging infrastructure is more important now than any pending improvements in battery technology. An affordable 500km EV would work for most people if they can count on finding chargers when and where they need them.

          In the US, we’ll be scrambling to keep up with charger demand for the foreseeable future, so long-range EVs will remain a useful option for those who can afford them.

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        10 months ago

        I get where you coming from and that would be nice.

        But weight and cost will always be an issue. To get costs down, range will like hover around the 400-500km - same as ICE. Outliers who need more then that will have to pay more a lot I’m guessing.