• hazley@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I don’t know if I would personally call this affordable. Maybe my perception of car pricing isn’t aligned with the current reality but at least in Canada this car is not cheap.

    In Canada the Core starts at 50k CAD and the Circuit Edition starts at 59k CAD. Assuming no dealership markup which is actually very hard to come by around major cities (especially around Toronto/GTA), it’s 56k for the Core and 67k CAD for the Circuit Edition OTD. An Elantra N 6MT for a quick albeit not direct comparison is about 46k CAD OTD.

    My previous two cars are very different from the GR Corolla, but my 2016 mid trim WRX was 37k CAD OTD and my fully loaded 2023 BRZ was 40k CAD OTD. Neither are as fast or capable, but we’re talking about a 16-19k difference brand new here.

    I know in the current market there isn’t really another hot hatch that’s like the GR Corolla, but I’m not sure that can excuse it from not even having heated steering and having this kind of interior/features for 56k CAD. I just don’t think this car is as affordable as people are saying, especially when most are either going to be paying markup or waiting years for an allocation at MSRP.

    • le_b0mb@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Eh I can’t even get it very easily near me. Calgary dealers said their list runs 100s long. And the dealer near me does ‘preorders’, that don’t even guarantee a colour or timing on delivery.

      So why would I waste my time on an “affordable”-expensive Corolla, when I can get a Miata in the exact colour I want? And with no markups.

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        10 months ago

        But the only other options for AWD

        Can’t even say Corolla has AWD if it turns off after 15 min.

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      11 months ago

      In the U.S. I waited patiently and got my MSRP loaded Core for $40,044. Has the shift knob, all weather mats and cargo liner and frameless Homelink mirror as port installed options so you can get a loaded Core closer to $39K. Without the Tech and Cold Weather package it’s under $38K.

      The car at $38k-$40K USD:

       It's a superior car in every way to a WRX Premium/Limited.
       It's $7k-9k cheaper than a Golf R and has a much better manual transmission.
       It's got AWD and is $7K cheaper than the CTR. 
       It's got AWD and is $15k cheaper than the ITR. 
       It's $3K-$5K more than the Elantra N but has AWD.
       It's $3K-5K more than a 40th Anniversary GTI but has AWD and a superior manual transmission. 
      

      For vehicles under $40K honestly the Elantra N 6-speed manual, GTI 40th DSG and GR Corolla Core (with PP) are the 3 best “affordable” performance compacts.

       Elantra N for FWD 6-Speed Manual
       GTI 40th Anniversary DSG (has DCC) for FWD Automatic
       GR Corolla for AWD 6-Speed Manual.
      
    • Ya-im-that-guy@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      there isn’t really another hot hatch that’s like the GR Corolla

      Right. All the other cars that cost $60k are way better cars.

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        10 months ago

        Right. All the other cars that cost $60k are way better cars.

        Cool. I want an awd hot hatch though not a BMW M2. Because, first of all, i’m not a resident of LA. A specific kind of person buys that car, that person doesn’t match me at all. Like Corvette owners. A specific kind of person buys a Corvette.

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    11 months ago

    I don’t understand what Toyota is doing with their performance cars. We all know about the oil pressure issue on the GR86, and the most “track purposed” car they’ve made, the GR Corolla can hardly handle 1 lap of a road course. Did Toyota not think people were going to take their cars to the track and discover that all that talk about track capability was just a marketing ploy?

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      10 months ago

      The problem is more the internet talking about issues here that every car manufacturer has when you take their vehicle on the track.

      Like your car for instance. You will need cooling and brake mods. Then also your tires are so expensive you could use that money to put an Accusump on a GR86 making it a better track car than a 1le camaro.

      • Dazzling-Rooster2103@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        The only car I would take on the track and be comfortable would be a 1LE Camaro. Chevy put out a track prep guide to make sure that your car is prepped and keeps its warranty.

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    11 months ago

    So damn tuning this thing will require fixing a lot of this before adding a lot of power.