I think they point he’s trying to articulate is that he assumed it had to do with workforce discrimination and not refusing service.
They’re different kinds of discrimination, and it like like both are legal in religious grounds in certain circumstances.
An example of legal religious employment discrimination is churches. They are allowed to require those in religious leadership and religious education positions to be professing members of the faith. But they CAN’T discriminate based on religion for non-religous positions.
So a Baptist Church can require that a pastor be a Christian, but can’t fire the janitor for being Buddhist.
Ok so hear me out. I get what you’re saying and your example also makes sense however I think one thing is being glossed over.
In drawing the equivalence to religious beliefs we are stating that those part of the LGBTQ2+ABC123 community are also simply pretending who they are.
That’s not an equivalence I’m comfortable with. It’s frankly demeaning to say that a trans person can just “stop thinking they’re trans and be done with it”.
One is discrimination based on what you believe and another is discrimination on who you are.
So to your example, I think it’s better if you’re a Baptist Church you can’t require that a pastor be white just like you can’t fire a janitor for being black.
They’re not the same thing from a human perspective. But religious belief has the same protection under the law as other protected classes.
Many churches also ban gay or female clergy. Do I find that abhorrent? Absolutely. But it’s reasonable for organizations to expect their leadership to represent their beliefs.
Look at it from the other direction. What if the GLAAD CEO were to join the Westboro Baptist Church, claim she’d been converted? Legally, her religion and religious speech is just as protected as race or sex, but GLAAD would certainly have cause to fire her for being a member of the WBC.
Seriously dude accuses someone of being a troll and then behaves like a massive troll not to mention a child. Then when someone talks levelheaded back “imma block you now”
He’s refusing service… because they’re LGBTQ+. That sounds fairly discriminatory to me.
I think they point he’s trying to articulate is that he assumed it had to do with workforce discrimination and not refusing service.
They’re different kinds of discrimination, and it like like both are legal in religious grounds in certain circumstances.
An example of legal religious employment discrimination is churches. They are allowed to require those in religious leadership and religious education positions to be professing members of the faith. But they CAN’T discriminate based on religion for non-religous positions.
So a Baptist Church can require that a pastor be a Christian, but can’t fire the janitor for being Buddhist.
Ok so hear me out. I get what you’re saying and your example also makes sense however I think one thing is being glossed over.
In drawing the equivalence to religious beliefs we are stating that those part of the LGBTQ2+ABC123 community are also simply pretending who they are.
That’s not an equivalence I’m comfortable with. It’s frankly demeaning to say that a trans person can just “stop thinking they’re trans and be done with it”.
One is discrimination based on what you believe and another is discrimination on who you are.
So to your example, I think it’s better if you’re a Baptist Church you can’t require that a pastor be white just like you can’t fire a janitor for being black.
They’re not the same thing from a human perspective. But religious belief has the same protection under the law as other protected classes.
Many churches also ban gay or female clergy. Do I find that abhorrent? Absolutely. But it’s reasonable for organizations to expect their leadership to represent their beliefs.
Look at it from the other direction. What if the GLAAD CEO were to join the Westboro Baptist Church, claim she’d been converted? Legally, her religion and religious speech is just as protected as race or sex, but GLAAD would certainly have cause to fire her for being a member of the WBC.
I never said it wasn’t discriminatory.
Is English not your first language? Or are you just trolling at this point?
Then the original headline was valid was it not?
Re-read my initial comment until it makes sense.
I’m gonna block you now.
I don’t agree with you. Now I’ll wait to be blocked. Hahahah
Seriously dude accuses someone of being a troll and then behaves like a massive troll not to mention a child. Then when someone talks levelheaded back “imma block you now”
Fragile indeed.
Your wish is my command!
Your initial comment is pedantic and you’re being a dick.
When people outside the conversation are saying “you’re being a dick” it might be time to step back and reflect on why that is.
Immediate accusations of trolling because I pointed out your needless pedantry? Yeah thats a block.
Lol, okay.