• bouh@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Starfield is currently in a far worse state than cyberpunk was at release. There was a hate train for CP77.

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        1 year ago

        On pc, it is. But you gotta choose where to put your faith, and Bethesda had blind faith from its players for ages.

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          1 year ago

          not in my experience it isn’t I have like 50 hours in starfield and I’ve had very little bugs at all

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            1 year ago

            That is exactly what anecdotal evidence is. And that is precisely why it’s not relyable.

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              1 year ago

              You are giving anecdotal evidence.

              What isnt anecdotal evidence is that 2077 was so buggy it was preventing people from playing the game, and the game breaking bugs were well documented.

              While starfield has no consistent and unavoidable game breaking issues. As shown by zero documentation of stable game breaking bugs.

              Theyre not the same.

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      1 year ago

      Starfield wasn’t overhyped unlike Cyberpunk, so it got way less flack and was received much better. It also doesn’t crash every couple of minutes for most, so that is a plus.

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        1 year ago

        Cyberpunk didn’t crash for most. It worked well at release for most actually. See the steam rating for proof.

        Meanwhile some friends can’t play starfield because it does crash all the time. And I’m not even talking about its shortcomings as a game.

        What I suspect is that the game work on console, and that’s the only thing that matters to your online reputation. That was the only true sin of CP77, and the only success of starfield, and that’s all the difference.

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          It was not the only true sin of cyberpunk. I played on release on a 3090 and it was bland, felt rushed, full of bugs, and the city felt hollow with things spawning in and out breaking immersion. It just wasn’t a fun game unless you stuck to the rails, and even then it felt half-assed. The intro where I’m rushed into the city and then they just skip over all the character introductions with a cutscene really left a sour taste in my mouth.

          They hyped it up to be this living breathing city with ultimate freedom and they simply didn’t deliver.

          Starfield, however, everyone knew they were using the same old engine, with the same old game design, it was just going to be Skyrim in space. And it was.

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            It was not the only true sin of cyberpunk. I played on release on a 3090 and it was bland

            I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who thought the Sinnerman quest was ‘bland’ - and if you thought The Hunt was bland, uh, I’m sorry. I had to go hug my kids.

            Maybe I’ve somehow made it into my 40’s without being jaded.

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              I’m talking about the world on the whole, because unfortunately I got bored and was so disappointed in the offerings that I probably didn’t play the missions you mentioned, and dropped it out of my to-play list, as other games have been more engaging.

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                Well in my opinion you missed out big. I played about… 6-8 months after launch and it’s now my 3rd most played game on steam. The world-building is incredible, where you’re constantly overhearing things happening around the city that later you actually get to witness. Some of the quests are probably my favourite in any game, ever. Not to mention the combat (especially post 2.0) is way more fun than I was expecting. Using Mantis Blades you feel like a bug from Starship Troopers. I have a screenshot somewhere of three arms and two legs all airborne in my vision as I tore through some unfortunate gangers.

                I haven’t played the DLC yet, but it’s next in my queue.

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            Did you have the game on a hdd or an ssd? That was a big technical problem of CP77. On an ssd it worked perfectly fine.

            Bland, rushed and full of bugs is an exaggeration and very subjective. Starfield is worst on that aspect.

            Again, look at steam ratings if you want to see an objective rating of the game since launch. CP77 had 20% of bad review despite the flaming even on media that never talked about a video game before, and that is since the first month of release. It’s a bit early for starfield but current evaluation is at 28% of bad reviews.

            Starfield has a worst launch than CP77. That is a hard fact.

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              Again, no it wasn’t perfectly fine. Of course, I had it on an M2 drive. No amount of whitewashing can cover up the fact it was broken and unfinished on launch, and that’s why there was such a well deserved backlash.

              They promised things that simply weren’t in the game. There were clear unfinished parts of the world, the story, and the gameplay.

              Starfield is Skyrim in space. If you like that formula, great, you got Skyrim in space.

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                1 year ago

                It’s not whitewashing when the statistics talk for themselves.

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                  1 year ago

                  Saying something wasn’t broken when it was, is whitewashing.

                  The statistics are that the majority of people were disappointed in the release.

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                    1 year ago

                    Statistics from your ass. There’s no more to talk if you deny the reality of things.

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          1. Steam ratings prove jack shit
          2. Are you joking? On release that game was a pile of glitches
          3. Consoles are literally just PCs nowadays.