Don’t forget “14 years old”.
That’s the little line between.
God, just today someone was telling me that definitions were “facts”, and that staying “LGBTQ” was “changing the meaning of the alphabet” somehow.
They were celebrating a bunch of women not being able to attend a job fair, but then started telling me that they were “protecting women”
Sounds like a troll… I hope…
I’m usually both after about 9pm.
Of what timezone?
Yes
The correct answer
Probably their timezone, duh.
They gotta be more specific
…that’s the joke.
Bigot as well.
Seems like debate and people changing their minds when presented with new information is something that died around 9/11, if it ever even existed. Even the most mild vocal disagreement just further entrenches people in their feelings.
There’s just no point.Everyone thinks it’s the other person that needs to change their mind when presented with the new information. Both sides feel like they are right and the other side is stupid for not understanding.
Both sides are right. Every argument comes from a true emotional desire. Every exchange of arguments can be ‘won’ by recognizing the need of the other person and finding common ground.
Ok so “Gay people deserve the right to live and be happy” and “Gay people are abominations who deserve death”
Tell me exactly where the middleground is please.
Default male identity surpresses pain and desire to be reliable. (roughly, please don’t get lost in the details.)
Gay culture is about accepting and expressing deep desires. It’s just coincidentally sexuality because that desire is so strong that it drives the change to accept desires. It’s in the name, gays are gay.
If you are on a diet and you are hungry and you have to sit next to somebody who eats cake, it brings the will for self-control to its limit.
The middle ground is protection of the self. The haters hate to not be vulnerable, to be able to fight and endure pain and suffering.
Show them how they can protect without suffering. Remove the need for them to hide their emotions. Make the world safe. Remove the need to hate.
Or accept that we need to fight and surpressing sexuality is a price to pay to win against the enemy.
Or have both sides look at it together and discover social norms for coexistence together.
What I’m seeing is that I should murder people who eat cake?
It worked for France, hasn’t it?
There is often no common ground depending on the argument
You have to look at the underlying desires.
If people are rational you can convince them with arguments. But if they are not then they don’t care about what they say and walk back on their words. What good is winning those arguments?
It happens, it just never comes to a satisfying synthesis. I changed my opinion a few times after one of those big 25 reply arguments, though I never admitted to it in the moment.
It’s always been a thing to not really want to admit you’re wrong. Half of debate is just realizing you’re not ever going to change your opponent’s mind real-time. Ego gets in the way way too hard, particularly on a public platform. Debating on a public platform is more to try to convince people in the audience that are more moderate.
Sometimes, your good argument can also actually change the other person’s mind, even slightly, but you’ll probably never SEE it. That doesn’t mean it’s pointless, just that if you’re expecting to get something out of the act of debating, it has to be something other than changing your oppo mind.
Anyone who does not understand what I am saying = Idiot.
Anyone who disagrees with what I am saying = Troll
It’s more than just disagreement. It’s disagreement in defiance of logic and reason. Bad faith actors.
Anyone who does not understand or agree with what I’m saying = idiot
Anyone who understands or agrees with my opinion but pretends not to in order to get a rise = troll
At least it’s not “faggot” or “retard” anymore.
I don’t see a point of constantly shifting the words. It’s the meaning that matters. I’ve heard people use “mentally challenged” the same way people used idiot and retard. Now if I look up “mentally challenged” it’s directing me to “Intellectual disability”, which still means in the same thing, so it’s only a matter of time before people start using that and the words have to change again. It all seems so pointless. No one likes being called an idiot, but it’s there will always be a word to cover that meaning. We might as well just use the words we had.
I once told a coworker doing dumb shit to “Take a minute, go outside and count your chromosomes.”
I also told another one “You are wasting my time AND the time of the tree that makes your oxygen”
I never used the words idiot or retard, but I meant every word. Because if being bitched out for unsafe behavior hurts your feelings, you’re really going to hate being thrown offsite and having to beg HR to keep your job. Because those are my choices, bitch you out or write you up.
I don’t see a point of constantly shifting the words.
There is no point, that is just what humans do with language. It is never static. Always evolving.
Every generation crates new slang to differentiate themselves from their parents. Give it enough time and Latin turns into French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and Romanian because each local population changed Latin in different directions.
It is even happening to English. There are now several sub-languages of English according to linguists.
UK English.
US English
Aus English
Singapore English
International English
To name just a few.
Yeah, this stuff isn’t really slang though. They’re replacing the slang with ever more technical replacements in an effort to make something non-offensive, when the idea behind the words is inherently offensive. Then shame is used to drive adoption. Slang I get, this other stuff… it’s just annoying.
Taboo words are a strong driver in language drift.
Sometimes you can hit the stage where either person admits they’re wrong.
It only requires an analytic philosophy PHD- Level essay.
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I’m banned from Hexbear
And you’re lamenting this?
Congrats bro
Why would hexbear ban you for hating a Rick and Morty creator
I have a dick and i am happy about it
Good for you ig
Any political idea that differs from someone else’s seems to get you these labels. They really don’t like it when you straight up tell them you are not going to continue the dialogue and call you one of these two things to get the last word.
