• cnnrduncan@beehaw.org
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            Eh the authoritarian capitalists who love the CCP generally seem to embrace the fact that China is authoritarian - they see it as a good thing!

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              I think that we in the west sometimes fall into the trap of believing that our core values of freedom and democracy are supreme and are what all people across the world want to achieve and should aspire to.

              Maybe a lot of people in China think that a strong centralised government guiding the economy and most aspects of people’s lives is the sign of a healthy society and they are happy with it. Maybe they think it’s we who are sick because we don’t like the state being too involved in our lives. To them, perhaps it’s complete insanity.

              Idk, I might be talking complete bs. I just think that different people have different values and there’s no right answer to how society is set up.

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    The ever aging battle of living in a digital world with global reach whilst being forced to live and comply within the lines drawn in sand.

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      Not sand, pencil, and the rich have all the erasers. But yeah no, good luck out there, it’s a totally fair and even playing field, trust!

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    Third party scraped reports citing a crypto shill site’s reporting on a blurry and redacted document from China’s equivalent of Facebook is how I get all my accurate and true news about things that really happened.

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        The first link is just quoting the social media post verbatim. Treat it with the same degree of reliability as “this guy said on Facebook/Twitter…”

        Second article actually goes out of its way to say how uncommon it is to be punished for circumventing the firewall:

        “Climbing the firewall results in punishment” is not the norm A common misunderstanding among the public about circumvention is that anyone who circumvents the wall will be punished. This is unrealistic for two reasons: first, the public security organs do not have that many law enforcement police; second, the public security organs are not as busy as you think. Most of the time, the punishment for circumventing the wall is to pull out the radish and bring out the mud. There are typical cases where the public security organs take the initiative to go to the external network to arrest people, but the number is very small.

        Judging from the 50 cases, only one case adopted the first-level “extreme law enforcement model”, that is, the “use of circumvention software is punishable” model. The description of the case was “A certain person used his own mobile phone to use a VPN on the Internet to circumvent the firewall.” Wall software, its behavior constitutes the unauthorized use of non-legal channels for international networking." Even so, the actual situation of enforcement may be different from the description of the administrative penalty decision.

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    And there is still a lot of people, especially on lemmy, basically worshipping China and other communist countries.

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      and other communist countries. Authoritarian dictatorships.

      Just because they slap socialist or communist on the country name doesn’t make it so.

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      Capitalists put you in jail for marijuana. They used to put you in jail for alcohol. Hell, child labor is used in capitalist countries. China honestly is an authoritarian mixed economy. But perhaps, even in the USA, authoritarism is preferred.

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        I’m not trying to defend America but they don’t put you in jail or fine you for using a VPN (yet).

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        The difference between democracy and fascism is that the laws are quickly changing due to public opinion in America, but that does not happen in China.

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          People have been smoking Marijuana since the 60’s and it’s still a federally illegal drug at the level of heroine. Laws don’t change quickly in the US at all.

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            I never said laws change quickly.

            Marijuana use only recently became publicly accepted by the majority of people. As a result, it is now completely legal in many states and will likely soon be legal federally.

            This kind of thing would never happen in China.