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      I saw a early video from a “medical expert” the government was trying to “silence” we would all be dead within 6 months from the first jab containing cancer, ground up aborted baby fetuses, Aids, Cancer and Alzheimer’s. I usually joke due to the Alzheimer’s I’ve forgotten to die more than once now.

      Most have moved on to Trans hate, bathroom use, child groomers and kidnapping. After reading Carl Sagan’s Demon Haunted World, it seems there are old themes religions have used to invoke emotional responses from the masses to maintain control. These conspiracy types have stolen the same plays for their causes to great effect as who does not think child grooming and kidnapping is terrible?

      It doesn’t require much thought or research to be moved with this kind of raw emotion and in the 90s these child abuse themes were hard to confirm on a grand scale but also invoked the same responses as alien abductions once did.

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      not only was it an idiotic thing to believe, but the sheer joy many of them said this with, like they actually would revell in delight at the thought of “vaxxers” dying everywhere. real charming people.

      another reason I will never give a cooker the time of day, other than to mock them and watch them get shouty and mad

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      I saw a minivan go by just the other day that had large homemade foam (?) syringe on top of their car with the word “genocide” painted on. They’re still waiting for it to happen.

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      Unironically my health seems to be better for completely unrelated things. It’s not the vaccine that did that, it just happened, but according to these novax I’d be a mutant by now. Also people stopped talking about it, the only people who still insist on the covid thing are these novax conspiracy nuts.

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      Me: “What about all of the other governments? Europe, Africa, Australia, Russia, they’re all in total agreement and doing it together?”

      Them: processing that there are other countries and governments outside of the US’s control

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        Many of these people would probably answer that governments are actually just puppets of the global pharmaceutical industry.

        And Bill Gates.

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          I still wonder why Bill Gates even cares what those living in trailer parks with their Trump flags breeding non stop when it comes to “tracking”. If anything birth control would be a better conspiracy here to slow the march towards the movie “Idiocy” as usually more educated choose not to have kids or lots of kids.

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            Ohhh Darryl and Jeana went to Walmart again, good thing I put this tracker in. They’ve never been more than 300 miles away from home but now I can always find out where they are!

            It’s not like they literally carry a device with them all day that tracks every move they make, what they say, or what they’re doing already

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    “any moment now anyone who got the vax is gonna flop over and start foaming at the mouth, I heard it on the My Pillow Guy show.”

    I can’t decide which is more depressing, people stupid enough to believe the shit, or the absurd lack of credibility their sources provide - fucking rubes and idiotic liars deserve each other I guess.

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      If the government wanted to kill people, they’d kill those who refused to comply.

      So the thing that would make more sense, is that the COVID vaccine was an antidote, and the government was going to release a toxic gas to kill everyone who didn’t take it.

      But nah, their argument is that the government is killing those who comply. Ya, because that makes sense.

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        That’s one of the things that bugs me about conspiracy theories. So many of them don’t even have a point.

        How can so many be people be so wrapped up in conspiracism, but never once have the though, “Oh, wait, why would anyone do this? It’d be pointless.”

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          That’s what gets me about flat earthers. The “best” explanation I’ve seen is that it would show the Bible is true and the elites don’t want us to believe in God, but… would it show the Bible is true? Why even start this century long lie in the first place? I don’t think discovering the earth is round is what pushed people into secularism in the first place, and revealing now it was wrong wouldn’t get people into religion?

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          It’s because people aren’t wired that way. There’s a name for that phenomenon, but I forgot.

          The idea behind it is that people make up “reasons” (conspiracy strategies) that fit the event. A big event needs a big reason, they can’t just accept that some things happen due to accidents or just by chance.

          That’s why Covid can’t have been natural, it must have escaped from a lab! The government is giving us free vaccines? It can’t be that they just want to get us back to work, there must be a secret plot behind that!

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          Flat Earth is exactly that.Nobody has explained to me why “NASA doesnt want you to know the truth”

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        Someone straight up told me its because the elites only want those they can respect to survive.

        It’s a wierd form of hating them but desperately wanting their approval. I think they all just have daddy issues that aren’t the kinky fun kind.

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        This is my same argument for gun ownership as well. While I’m not against people owning guns, to think that us civilians would survive any decent length of time of the government finally came down on us is laughable.

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        ‘That’s because the COVID “vaccine” is full of nano-particles that the government can use to control you.’

        See, you didn’t take the crazy-thinking far enough.

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      No, the way it is currently is any time someone in the news that is seemingly healthy but has a major heart issue (for example Bronny James) they immediately jump and say “IT WAS THE VACCINE!”.

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    Being a republican means you never have to admit you’re wrong. You just live in a whole other universe where chemtrails turn the frogs gay, and Trump is an innocent, Christ-like patriot.

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      What I never understood (not from America), is that one party claims to really care about freedom and less involved government.

      Whenever I hear that I think cool, so the freedom to have full autonomy over your body? Legal drugs, abortion, etc. Or the freedom to marry who you want, whatever gender. The freedom to legally end your own life, for example if you are terminally ill.

      But usually it’s just large companies shouldn’t pay tax and we want guns, but for everything else fuck freedom.

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        No, you understand completely. The people voting for that party are just brainwashed morons and middle class dipshits with a few stocks who think they’ll become billionaires if only regulations were looser. You understand American politics better than like 80% of Americans.

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        Also while they claim to oppose the government, somehow the military and police don’t count. Plus how most veterans vote for the party that routinely wants to reduce benefits for veterans.

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        What gets me is the obvious con of it all. They preach anti establishment rhetoric… while being the establishment. They tell people not to trust the government… while in government… and expect people to trust them. And it works.

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        While it is a generalization, it accurately covers the majority of Republicans who have been vocal online over the last few years.

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          As far as I’m concerned each side has been just as annoying and incorrect as the other. Have you seen some of the stupid and objectively false things people say? It’s not just conservatives.

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            One side wants to advance and protect human rights, and the other side wants to ensure some people never have those rights. While there are boneheads on both sides, the core arguments aren’t same-same-but-different. And there seem to be way more people on the far right who are coal and in greater numbers than there are radical leftists.

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    I’ve heard someone tell me “it’s a hoax but I got sick twice” in the same sentence.

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      My boss lost his sense of smell (it’s been over a year). He copes by saying he’s never been much of a foodie! He tells employees not to take covid tests.

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      Shall I assume you don’t live in the USA?

      They withheld any information about C-19 to US citizens until into 2020. Yet I found myself sick with ‘influenza’ for Christmas 2019.

      That was the closest thing worth calling a ‘hoax’, the fact that it came out in 2019, but the US public wasn’t even made aware of it until later into 2020.

      By then people were already sick, and it was spreading out of control. Lockdown was about a joke at that point, they waited too long for lockdown to do a damn thing.

      BTW, it didn’t affect me any worse than any other case of a strong cold or the flu, though I totally realize it affected others differently.

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          Can’t say I’ve ever heard of NPR before today, might have been handy to know before I decided to go to the hospital over a large cyst on December 19, 2019, that’s probably where I got it.

          Anyways, from Wikipedia…

          “The World Health Organization declared the COVID-19 outbreak a Public Health Emergency of International Concern on 30 January 2020, and a pandemic on 11 March 2020.”

          By then I had already got it and had already recovered. When I finally heard about it on the news, I was like ‘well ain’t that fucking cute, a day late and a dollar short’

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        Live in the US. I saw the news covering it in 2019 and showing footage of people passing out in China. China was the one downplaying it to the world back then.

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    bUt tHeY oNLy sToPPeD tHe lOckDoWn bCauSE wE tHe aNTiVaXeR pRoTEsTeD fOr fREEdOM!!!

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    I assume the accepted copout is something along the lines of, “You can thank us for making enough noise that they backed down. Sheepdogs, sheep, blah blah something something…”

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    No time to talk about that now. Busy moving the goal posts.

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      Moving the goalposts suggests that they’re still talking about the same thing. Instead they’ve moved on to a new conspiracy and don’t even remember claiming the lockdowns were going to be permanent.

      In other words:

      “Who cares about lockdowns, that was 2 years ago. What matters is the Biden Crime Family!”

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        Check out INFOWARS (or much better yet check out Knowledge Fight). The ever looming prospect of more lockdowns and the globalist takeover is always coming tomorrow. When it inevitably doesn’t come, it’s because they exposed it.

        Trump gave a speech recently to his army of idiots trying to convince them that the lockdowns will be back just in time to stop them from voting for him.

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          That’s why I’m getting my mom (who is a conspiracy nut) to write down her predictions on a calendar, so we can look at them as they all fail to come true.

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          I like how the Japanese have always worn masks any time one of them was sick and it was never a problem for anyone. Fucking Americans are goddamn idiots and always have been. Being the biggest military as your only bragging point is proof of incompetence.

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            US gov: Spend 10 trillion dollars on the world’s biggest military operation to prevent retaliatory attacks caused by 3 trillion in oil investments after an attack kills 3k people in NY.

            Also US Gov.: Spend 2 trillion to fighting a disease that kills millions of people, give up after 2 years. Most the money actually went to business bailouts.

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                Interesting question, I know I was like 7-8 when we invaded Iraq, living in the south and definitely propagandized (I remember they played “Proud to be an American” in the cafeteria for weeks after 9/11)

                I didn’t know any better, afraid of/hated Muslims and remember asking a teacher why we didn’t just nuke all of the Middle East 🤦‍♂️

                I don’t remember getting a rebuke at all.

                Now I see how we were all played by the propaganda machine

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                  Yes, exactly. The same people who are doing the antivax/antimask propaganda were the same ones who masturbated furiously to Toby Keith songs and called all of us who said “BAD IDEA!!!” traitors, America-haters, and every other slur under the sun. Never once have they apologized to Dixie Chicks even twenty years later having finally recognized the war for the sham it was. Still, those who hate the COVID response will still get mad as hell if you suggest cutting the “defense” budget. None of these people care about the money or the debts incurred or the astronomically high interest bill; their only concern is “will we be able to kill or punish someone?” regardless of the necessity.

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          Masks only protect other people from your own germs

          They offer some protection to you too.

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            Yeah I’m pretty sure fffp3/N95 masks should leave you almost completely protected in normal circumstances, outside of working in a hospital or whatever.

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              If worn properly, which is actually pretty hard to do. Getting a proper seal on them is pretty uncomfortable, at least for me.

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        Still ‘had to.’ It’s pretty disgusting to sit in a poorly ventilated classroom with 10 people coughing their lungs out and wiping their snot on the chairs. University by the way.

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    They’re still here in Canada and they are still raging like absolute 14th century conquistadors. They still think it’s a giant conspiracy to take their liberties.

    In fact, a friend on Facebook just said “notice they never mention the COVID vaccine anymore? Makes you think eh?” They do, Donny. During flu season. It’s endemic, dumbass.

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    Everybody who got the vaccine was supposed to be dead by now, too. This is has gotta be the slowest-acting poison in history!

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    They’ll just claim that it was because of their efforts that they prevented the Islamic takeover of the US through mask mandates, when really it was all because Trump didn’t want his makeup rubbing off on his mask. One man’s vanity and the whole nation suffers.

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      This.

      You’re grossly underestimating these people if you think they ashamedly disappeared. They’re just convinced they won a small victory.