• LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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      Our world today must have been as hard to image as it is to image the world centuries ago. Like the entire concept that Leviticus and Exodus stated that it was wrong to accept interest on a loan. Martin Luther even tried to keep that up when Calvin split off in the early 1500s. So that’s like a 3000 year period from Leviticus to Calvinism that capitalism just couldn’t exist the way it does today. Every business and many of the shackles on society are tied to interest rates.

  • OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world
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    People have intellectual empathy. They know what they’re supposed to feel. They know how you feel. That’s how they know how to manipulate or abuse you.

    There’s something about people that’s missing the part where they care.

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    Paying attention.

    The world is on fire while the Epstein class diddles.

    Empathy is weakness to the most fragile little boys with insanely huge egos and a rapacious need to hurt everyone and anyone for a nickel.

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    I’ve thought about this question for over 10 years and I’ve had many answers. The most consistent answer throughout the years has been simply listening

    I’m a quiet person and people generally notice that I’m a good listener. This somehow makes me the unexpected therapist. People just tell me what’s truly in their hearts and on their minds. Sometimes they don’t even notice they are saying what they are saying and it catches themselves off guard. They talk, I listen. What people don’t realize is that I remember too…

    I’ve heard so many stories. Rejection, manipulation, poverty, hate, sexual violence, war and the list goes on

    The gift of making people feel heard and the curse of remembering all their stories

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    Fun Fact: Conservatives are biologically unable to experience empathy. It is simply not possible to experience empathy and hold conservative views simultaneously.

    An inability to experience empathy is why bigotry comes so easily to a conservative. It’s why cruelty comes so easily to a conservative. It’s why they accuse empathetic people of “making it up” or being weak. Their inability to experience empathy is at the core of their attacks on the empathetic, using epithets like “being woke” to describe them.

    The inabilty to experience empathy is why conservatives’ relationships are so shallow. Deep personal connections require empathy. This is why they see their family as property rather than humans. A conservative “loves” their spouse and child the way a teenager loves a sports car. Ownership is a strong emotion, but it is not deep. An attack on their family is an attack on their property, not humans they love. In fact, a conservative will almost never say “I love you” because it’s simply not accurate.

    Conservatives are not brainwashed or tricked into being cruel. They simply cannot experience empathy. This is why they will never change. They will never have some epiphany and suddenly become kind and reasonable. They will always be a threat to the empathetic as they are genuinely disgusted by empathy.

    If you suspect your conservative family, friends or neighbors hate you, it’s likely because you are empathetic toward them. They deeply distrust empathy and will never be comfortable around it.

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      Ur copypasta is dumb as hell. And u are literally not even a smidgeon better/smarter than KKK members that say that all blacks are evil. You are literally using the same generalizations. Blocked.

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    I suppose this is a better way to put it. The more I learn about things the more angry I get. :( but it’s not that I’m changing, it’s that so many things are done for profit consequences be damned, or bigotry and racism.

    Gross.

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      yeah. I think doing stupid awful things with terrible side effects that won’t really work when you have better options is bad.

      I like books. I think thinking helps you make good decisions.

      I’m too radical for the local communists.

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      Agreed, the last few points are the product of indoctrination; and at least for the ‘profit’ part, capitalism is the problem.

      The problem of indoctrination runs deep, that even bigotry can be seen within leftist areas (lemmy for example). Sexism, ageism and racism is just the tip of the iceberg.

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    checks alt text

    (nothing)
    Case in point: this image is basically pure text, but in a form unperceivable to people who need actual text.
    No empathy there.
    Empathy truly is radical: far easier to proclaim than to universally practice.

    Those who react with hostility when lapses in empathy are pointed out likely have a special deficiency in empathy: they need to self-reflect & take inventory of themselves.

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      no consideration, certainly. no word on empathy content.

      ‘empathy’ does not mean kindness or virtue or caring. it is a specific narrow thing that, as demonstrated, has limited utility without other virtues. think of it like cinnamon. goes in a lot of things, more than you’d think but not all, and kind of garbage on its own.

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    Empathy is complex. There is nothing basic about it, nor does anyone enjoy the presumption that people shall be empathetic.

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    You aren’t born with empathy.

    Edit: dang I didn’t expect the downvotes…

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      Watch some young children, or even babies, and you’ll see that’s not generally true. It’s not perfect, you’ll definitely see some unempathic behaviour, but the basics are there. Babies and children will comfort each other, and often share. Even chimps and other primates have been seen showing empathy.

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        Empathy as a moral guide usually refers to universal empathy rather than a biased, discriminatory empathy favoring only an in-group.

        Infants show biases such as in-group favoritism early

        But the next finding surprised the researchers: When the puppet that dropped the ball did not share the babies’ taste in food, the infants preferred the mean puppet to the helper. In other words: Babies prefer someone who is nice to an individual similar to themselves, but they also prefer someone who is mean to a dissimilar individual.

        That’s not empathetic.

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          That study doesn’t seem to have been looking for empathic behaviour, but at preference. I’ll admit, I’ve not ready the study itself but, from the summary you’ve linked, it seems the infants were basically shown a puppet show and then given the opportunity to reach for any of the puppets. I wouldn’t expect any particular display of empathy there, as even babies can tell a puppet from a living creature a lot of the time. That they expressed preferences for particular puppets that had shown certain behaviours is interesting, but I wonder about the confounding factors like the apoearance and even quality of puppetry. We know that babies have individual preferences towards certain face types and general appearances, so this probably carries over into a scenario like this.

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            So, they have less empathy for the outgroup of puppets? That’s not a strong argument for inborn empathy.

            While I can’t speak for you, I remember imagining inanimate objects had feelings as a kid, which made choices to reject something absurdly difficult.

            Facial preferences don’t help, either, and are part of an established body of research showing the early, undirected manifestation of discriminatory biases. On racism, for example

            Race is a multidimensional and socially constructed (Smedley & Smedley, 2005) lens through which even infants engage with the social world. Research from racially and culturally diverse contexts has shown that 3-month-olds prefer faces from particular racial groups (Bar-Haim, Ziv, Lamy, & Hodes, 2006), and 9-month-olds use race to categorize faces (Anzures, Quinn, Pascalis, Slater, & Lee, 2010). Before entering preschool, 3-year-old United States-based children associate low-status racial groups with negative traits (Dunham, Chen, & Banaji, 2013; Newheiser, Dunham, Merrill, Hoosain, & Olson, 2014), and by age 4, they associate particular racial groups (e.g., Whites) with high status markers (e.g., wealth; Olson, Shutts, Kinzler, & Weisman, 2012). And United States children experience the negative consequences of living in a racialized world: seven-year-olds experience racial discrimination (Marcelo & Yates, 2019), and race-based discrimination is widespread in schools (U.S. Government Accountability Office, 2018).

            the APA has argued racist ideas can emerge early, so adults need to talk about race with their children earlier. Such biases are not very empathetic and need correction.

            Empathy is a skill that needs development.

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      You also aren’t born toilet trained, but some people take to it and some people wind up president of the USA.

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      Very true. Empathy must be learned.

      Usually, that would happen in early childhood … but with the way certain political movements have been villainizing empathy, I’m concerned that there might be half a generation of kids currently growing up whose parents actively avoided teaching them empathy…

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      True, and an awful lot of fools react with hostility to facts that offend them. Where is their empathy?