If an election were held today, 48% of committed voters would vote Liberal, 32% Conservative, 9% NDP, 6% Bloc Québécois, 3% Green, 1% People’s Party, and 1% another party.

  • codydodd@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Another one:

    https://lemmy.ca/post/73103520

    Lewis pushing for nationalization of Stelco to save jobs. And in this case we have admission from the owner it was bought because it was too efficient and was undercutting their own production. So nationalization in this case is a good idea, of a profitable industry important for national security. No other party is pushing for such protection of these jobs. The Liberals are not stopping those losses from happening and law suits against the owners is a slow step. Nationalize like the UK did to steel very recently.

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      I mean, Lewis would nationalize Canadian Tire if he could. That’s what activists do. They perform. And Lewis is performing. “capitalism is the problem,” he says, while wildly benefiting from capitalism.

      Nationalizing Stelco wouldn’t save jobs any more than forcing Cleveland Cliffs to sell the company to a responsible owner would. What nationalizing Stelco would absolutely do is make it a political football. Of course Lewis wants to nationalize Stelco. He’ll never have to deal with the consequences. Activists don’t get elected.

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        You say he isn’t pro worker until I show he is, then you hand wave and say its all performance so doesn’t count. Take off bud. You are just another NDP disparager like the long line of them since I have been following politics (since long before Layton btw).

        As for saying saying to another company is better than nationalization, I would say that really depends on a lot of things. We just sold to these guys and they turned out to be anti trust. UK just nationalized their steel and they are deeply pro capitapist. I think you just dont like progressivism or socialism.

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          It’s more like neither progressivism nor socialism likes me. You’re just redefining what the classes are. You’ll still be on the bottom either way.

          You say he isn’t pro worker until I show he is, then you hand wave and say its all performance so doesn’t count.

          Nationalization in and of itself is not pro-worker. Paying people properly, with proper benefits and protections, is pro-worker. We have no evidence the federal NDP under Lewis would do that. We have plenty of evidence that the Manitoba and BC NDP did not do that. The Alberta NDP wasn’t long enough in power to count, nor was the Rae NDP not to mention being 30 years ago. How much is the UK paying its steelworkers with the company it nationalized? How does that compare to the private sector in the UK? That’s what determines how pro-worker it is.

          As for saying saying to another company is better than nationalization, I would say that really depends on a lot of things. We just sold to these guys and they turned out to be anti trust.

          And yet the guys who sold Stelco to these guys were not, and the guys who run Algoma Steel are not. This guy’s an asshole, I agree. This guy also signed a contract. We agree what he’s doing should hurt him. Where we disagree is what hurting him should look like.