Someone buys a used Ryzen 7 5800X3D. “Valorant” and other Riot games won’t start with it because the previous owner was a cheater.
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Why do they even have access?
And this is why you don’t play games that require kernel level anticheat.
I doubt this is true. Hardware bans are an extremely rare occurance. Last time I remember PunkBuster did that, but only for attempts of tampering with the anti cheat software itself
I’m not saying this is impossible, it certainly is possible, and clearing or disabling the TPM is always a good idea on used PC hardware or even new hardware. And I’m not saying I know if that’s what actually happened here. But I have to put on my “press F to doubt” hat, and point out that realistically it always seems to turn out that like 95% of the time when someone claims they were “banned for cheating and this is the reason why” no matter how dramatic the story, it turns out they were actually cheating, because the kind of people who compulsively cheat at games are the same kind of people who compulsively cheat their way through life by twisting reality into these wild narratives that sometimes they actually even believe themselves. Riot giving a bunch of detailed information about how their anti-cheat detected this guy seems implausible, and meaningless since they won’t unban him anyway. They have nothing to gain from allegedly explaining all that, and if they’re unwilling to unban the person they might as well assume it’s still the actual cheater they’re talking to, and why bother telling them anything at all?
This all sounds like a load of baloney to me. Plausible, believable baloney, but still baloney.
F to doubt”
🖱️ Run as Administrator
the following command:
# wmic cpu get serialnumberHmm… I’ve always used
`# wmic bios get serialnumber
The old bat file that company depends no longer works because windows forced update uninstalled wmic, which was the day I learned what wmic was.
Pretty glorious tool if I’m being honest, so many useful things for an IT person to play with.
I would take it
Me too, most games with Anticheat are toxic hellholes anyway. Source: decades of playing LoL, Dota2 and a few other multiplayer titles.
The last PvP multiplayer title i really engaged with that didn’t suffer from that (outside of some random WoW CTF while waiting for the next raid) was Mechwarrior 4 - was recruited into a clan during a public match because i wrecked my opposition pretty good without simply relying on piloting a Daishi. That was a nice experience, pretty cozy atmosphere with these guys.
Indie game dev here with an upcoming arena /action rts. I fully agree with those companies employing toxic approaches, but cheating is legit. Even our very raw, very underdeveloped playtest had some players playing around with cheating, by adjusting client data. We had to reprioritize basic validation checks but they aren’t perfect. Im wondering if any devs has good tips/philosophies for balacinging discouraging cheating (as it ruins the experience for others) versus not pissing legitimate players off.
Want $5 bucks for it?
I haven’t had a fashit account in decades.
He wouldn’t have this problem on Linux.
e: for the Windows users: ('cause he can’t play Valorant anyway)
The joke is that you can’t play anti cheat games on Linux; This scenario would never be a problem for a Linux user, because they can’t use the service in the first place.
That was indeed the joke.
Linux Pros:
Can’t run Riot Games
How the hell. Does the CPU have a serial number that’s visible to the system?
Does the CPU have a serial number that’s visible to the system?
“I didn’t read the article that attempts to explain this and explicitly states CPUs don’t have a unique ID.”
🙏be constructive instead insultive:
@artyom@piefed.social please take the time to read the article that further explains how all modern commercial hardware is compromisable & serialized
“I warned you so” doesn’t even remotely describe how I feel about this.
yes, my bloodlust hasn’t subsidedYou know, there are just days where one gets tired of constructive criticism of people who refuse to even take the first steps to help themselves and read a simple article.
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If you don’t even try informing yourself, why should someone else help you out? Just to encourage your laziness?
“I didn’t read the attempts to explain this but I’m going to accuse you of being lazy anyway”
I did read this, and i find it is a weak excuse for people who want to blabber about things they do not have put an inkling of thought into.
You obviously didn’t because you called me lazy, when that has nothing to do with the issue.
You’ve got no fucking leg to stand on, calling people lazy. What a clown.
“I don’t understand how quotation marks work!”
“I didn’t read the attempts to explain this”
You’re one to talk. lmao
Ironic, isn’t it?
Well not really, given nothing they said suggested they didn’t read your 6-point excuse to comment on material you haven’t read (I did); you just asserted they didn’t.
Well then maybe don’t participate in posts like these. Others should not suffer with uninformed questions just because of your personal decision.
Nah.
Tl; Dr?
tl;dr the modern web fuckin blows and people submit shit content, and do so in a poor fashion.
It is unclear how Riot uniquely identifies processors. While CPUs report a hardware ID to the operating system, they only reveal which model it is. A Ryzen 7 5800X3D, for example, is not distinguishable from another Ryzen 7 5800X3D without further ado.
Intel’s Pentium 3 processors from 1999 untypically had unique identifiers. At the time, they caused protests: data protectionists feared that the readable serial number would act like a permanent cookie and make users trackable without gaps.
Riot could create hardware fingerprints for tracking, for example, with a combination of clock behavior and voltages. Each processor behaves slightly differently and can thus be identified.
data protectionists feared that the readable serial number would act like a permanent cookie and make users trackable without gaps.
oh no, our age is showing. quick, cue gen α brainrot!
brainrot mobile game when?
I pray you don’t go to playstores.
We survived shockwaveGame brainrot,
we’ll survive J2MErot.
It’s bad bad bad bad bad bad bad.I couldn’t care less for mobile games. I don’t even use normal Android or PlayStore. My reply was more of a joke. Currently we are also living through AiGame braintrot, especially on PC.
My reply was more of a joke.
same. look up the dates of shockwave & J2ME. I am implying we always had brainrot. The issue is that some choose to be addicted. We choose to circumvent.
We had brainrot even before, on C64 in the 80s. :-)
Most mobile games are already brainrot.
However, from the studio’s perspective, it would be much easier to write identification hashes into the Trusted Platform Module. Because this TPM sits as a coprocessor directly in the CPU in most PCs, the hash remains when switching to a new PC.
ATPO.
And FPO apparently.
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elucidate me 🙏Apologies. It would seem those are specific for Intel CPUs only. My mistake.
For AMD CPUs there seems to be a unique serial number. It is engraved physically on it, but I have yet to find how to view it through software check.
