A group of conservative Democrats in the House tried to one-up Republicans this week with a competing piece of legislation aimed at condemning the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and socialism in “all its forms,” after the GOP proposed an anti-socialist resolution that called for the passage of their marquee voter suppression legislation.
Last week, Republican Rep. Jeff Crank (Colorado) introduced a resolution that calls for the “condemnation and denouncement of socialism.” It calls out DSA, condemning the recent wave of DSA members running for Congress and New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani, and says that DSA’s ideology is “incompatible with American values.”
The resolution clunkily segues into a call for the House to pass the GOP’s SAVE America Act, which puts burdensome restrictions on voting regarding ID requirements and proof of citizenship that civil rights advocates say would be the worst voter suppression bill ever passed by Congress.
The resolution reportedly infuriated some Democrats in the House — not because of the sweeping condemnation of an increasingly popular ideology among Democrats, but because the resolution contained the clause about passing SAVE America.
I hate to say it, but considering they added a clause to support the SAVE America act, this kinda says to me hey, at least part of the democratic party is the “same side.”
Like fuck centrism, but Nazi Bar rule applies and those fuckers just sat down at the table.
They’re just adding legitimacy to the socialist cause.
It’s kind of nice seeing the story calling these jackassses conservative instead of the normal moderate.
Stories like this are exactly what the fascists want. They want Democrats so busy fighting each other that they can’t provide a unified resistance. So far it’s working.
See? At lease some people get it
That’s one way to see it. The way I see it leftists are fighting fascists, and the latter happens to include a lot of Democrats.
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Anyone working to pass the SAVE America act is working to keep the GOP in power.
Like it or not, 6 Democrats just openly said "We’d rather risk more time with Nazi pedophiles than risk the DSA holding any real power.
If you purposely work to empower a fascist, that makes you a fascist.
Those 6 democrats are fascists.
6 isn’t “a lot of Democrats”.
You’re right, I’m sorry.
I forgot this was the only time democrats have ever worked with the GOP to spite the working class ever.
Completely fucking unprecedented.
How do you get a new person in their position?
I’ll give you a hint - it’s voting for people who represent us
VOTE HARD
Already do. Just because I vote doesn’t make those particular democrats not fascists.
Also none of them are even in the same state as me, so my voting powers don’t effect them.
Got any more hot tips, lil buddy?
Incredulity is not a rebuttal, and mental illness is not a cool insult. Get blocked.
Weakness on display, and you’re bad at trolling. The worst.
Also does Ruzzia pay in rubles or USD?
Because they’re cowardly traitors and working together doesn’t mean we ignore that fact.
Why we will get nowhere trying to reform the Democratic party. We need to tear it all down and replace them all or start a new party. Make no mistake they will primary Mamdani when he comes up for reelection. Hell they might use this bullshit to disqualify him and have him recalled. Seriously best thing he could do is continue his good works and do it under a new party
Fucking both parties do that shit all the time get elected as a Democrat then join the Republicans. I seen it twice.
I don’t want to reform the Chuck Schumers and Hakeem Jeffries.
I want to hollow-out their party and use it like a hermit crab uses another creature’s shell.
— What Russia Wants You to Know
“No vote, comrade. You be like Ruzzia now. You be like us. We same, dah?”
Yes, we must stay inside the casino and keep feeding the slot machine until it changes the house rules in our favor.
The (realistic) alternative to voting is…?
To undertake activities across every layer of society to influence what kind of people wind up on your voting ballot. If you wait until the poll to do anything about the people on the ballot, you’ve already lost to corporations who bought those people. They’re going to get elected then act against their constituents’ interests.
Revolution, long overdue.
Got a guide on how to get that done? Have to get millions of people on board to potentially sacrifice everything for a chance of change through revolution. When things like health insurance and being able to afford food are directly tied to employment, which can be taken away at a moments notice, especially if someone is active in a revolution, it’s really tough to get people to go all in.
I’m not saying it can’t happen, just that it’s probably not going to unless something truly significant happens that greatly affects the masses. Depending on how the midterms are handled and how much fuckery Republicans can instill, we might see something. I’m not saying bad things haven’t happened, but it hasn’t gotten bad enough for the majority of people yet to throw their lives at a revolution.
You sound like the smartest person here - thank goodness. We’ve been waiting for you to enlighten us with your well thought out and reasonable solution.
Can’t wait!
Unfortunately, there’s no mechanism to make that happen over night. What we’re seeing with the DSA is the first step in replacing them all. You’ll have a tough time convincing people stuck in there ways to vote more progressive, but the successes that Mamdani is having in NY and potentially other locations will hopefully spread and start to help turn that tide.
If people start actually feeling the benefits of progressive policies, some will start changing their views. The primaries have shown that tide is starting to shift. Hopefully we can ride that wave, get through a corrupt midterm, and maybe start to steer the ship in the right direction.
People aren’t ready for this conversation and we’re running out of time
Realistically, people won’t be ready until the bootheel of the oppressor is on all of their throats. It has to reach the point where people would rather sacrifice their lives than live under the suffering.
The American revolution was enabled by the Puritan mindset. People believed if they sacrificed themselves for the noble cause, they would meet their maker in an eternal paradise. That allowed the threshold for violent overthrow to be much lower.
Plus it was motivated by economic freedom and desire for the dollar. The revolutionaries were motivated by mercantilist objectives, aka, the power of greed and the almighty dollar. We know the desire for wealth and property easily inspires violence.
Socialism is a moral movement. The entry point is a lot higher.
Science has secularized society, so most down with our cause know, you just get this one unique life and when you’re dead, you’re dead forever. That makes people a lot more hesitant.
I have a hard time believing the capitalist class is going to allow socialism without the threat of violence.
Sadly many will have to witness their family members, friends and neighbors thrown in prison, abused and killed for opposing the Epstein class’ regime, before their rage overcomes their fear. There’s already more than one enraged person out there, but their numbers are not yet big enough to be a genuine threat. When enough people cross the threshold, they will finally organize.
I think for the sake of one’s mental health, it’s more optimistic to look at material conditions and realize fascism at this juncture is unavoidable. The material conditions right now are not conducive to change. They’ve already seized the levers of power, and the decayed mechanisms of liberal capitalist democracy likely can’t stop it, only slow it down. If you can formulate a plan to emigrate, it’s best to do it now. I think this would be the wisest course of action.
Places like Uruguay are happily encouraging asylum and immigration. Entry level tech jobs there require no degree, and they have the least corruption and highest level of queer acceptance in the Americas.
Accepting this allows one to released the agonizing false hope narrative that we’ll be saved by the electorialism.
In fact you would be helping the cause, by contributing to massive brain drain that leads to the collapse of the wealth pyramid. Dumb, incompetent people can’t effectively run a nation without it eventually falling apart.
By any means possible, try to leave and let the MAGA red hats rot in their dystopian capitalist hell.
If you can’t do that? Than be prepared to fight, because it’s gonna get worse. My 46-year-old aging ass will probably pull a muscle doing barrel rolls with an AK-47 during guerilla combat. My record on first-person shooters suggests I’m not an effective military combatant and would likely be dead within 10 seconds.
What a great use of time. It’s not like we are not facing real problems or anything.
The what now?
