IDK it says BBC America, so I guess the explanation is quite simple.
It’s because Americans are crazy. An having perfectly natural hair under her armpits would be unacceptably disgusting for an American audience.
While torture, killing and poor hygiene is not.
It’s very possible it just never came up. Especially if it’s a male-run production. The male gaze just assumes a woman doesn’t have pit hair, and if she doesn’t think of it and bring it up, nobody does.
She probably takes her hairless pits for granted through long habit as we ll.
The rest of the job is basically rub “mud” product through her hair and all over her body. More attention paid to the face for closeups. (She’s got lipstick and contouring and probably mascara as well, a “no makeup” makeup.) Should some makeup artist have thought of it and glued some hair trimmings to her pits? Yes. But while it would be easy in this scene/pose, it would be uncomfortable and easily shed during scenes where she needs to use her arms, and then you run into continuity problems. (I don’t know the show but I assume she doesn’t spend the whole time crucified like that)
I still believe there should be more representation in media of women with body hair.
We should normalize picking what’s best for each person individually and not trying to portray a certain way that women are “supposed” to look.
Funnily enough, I personally prefer body hair because it’s softer than stubble. But that’s my personal preference and not one I tell others that they should do just to please me. (not saying you are doing this, just putting thoughts to words).
Fiona Dourif did a fantastic job portraying Bart in this show. If being clean shaven is how they wanted to appear on screen, I think their right to do so supersedes any obligation they have to ‘normalize’ anything for anyone else. It certainly did not harm the performance.
The media is made up of individuals with their own choices or autonomy. It’s fair to say “I wish this got more representation in media” but it’s entity unfair to criticise specific individuals for not upholding a specific standard. The original premise was “what if being clean shaven was her choice?” in which case it would be nobody’s place to hold that against her.
Natural body is a polite way of framing ungroomed. Men nor women like seeing poor hygiene. Some types of poor hygiene are seen as worse than others. Dirty hair? Sorta gross. Body hair? Disgusting.
My husband loves my hairy body. 🤷♂️ Finding hair disgusting and unsanitary isn’t a natural state for men, it’s something you’ve been taught. Clean hair isn’t unhygienic.
Isn’t that for you to decide? I know gay men who think facial hair is disgusting. Some like it. Regardless, I don’t get to tell my audience what they like, which is what you’re trying to do.
No Americans are to blame for what was reported about Americans. Because the report is true.
If it was false, BBC would be to blame.
Do you claim the story is false?
I don’t know of any other country where it’s considered a scandal if a famous woman has hair under her arms.
American audience doesn’t mean everybody in that audience, Americans doesn’t mean everybody either, just enough to make it an issue.
And in both cases it’s more than enough to make it an issue. Because it’s not just a couple of weirdos, it the mainstream media too.
So the broad generalization was made by you in your head, maybe because you felt included, why did you feel included?
Do you think hair under the arms is disgusting?
IDK it says BBC America, so I guess the explanation is quite simple.
It’s because Americans are crazy. An having perfectly natural hair under her armpits would be unacceptably disgusting for an American audience.
While torture, killing and poor hygiene is not.
Or this actress didn’t want to grow out pit hair for a comedy show. Not everything is that deep
Make-up departments exist. It being a deliberate choice by the production makes much more sense.
It’s very possible it just never came up. Especially if it’s a male-run production. The male gaze just assumes a woman doesn’t have pit hair, and if she doesn’t think of it and bring it up, nobody does.
She probably takes her hairless pits for granted through long habit as we ll.
The rest of the job is basically rub “mud” product through her hair and all over her body. More attention paid to the face for closeups. (She’s got lipstick and contouring and probably mascara as well, a “no makeup” makeup.) Should some makeup artist have thought of it and glued some hair trimmings to her pits? Yes. But while it would be easy in this scene/pose, it would be uncomfortable and easily shed during scenes where she needs to use her arms, and then you run into continuity problems. (I don’t know the show but I assume she doesn’t spend the whole time crucified like that)
There’s probably a merkin for pits, or there could be. That would have been funny.
I just learned there’s a fly, for fly fishing, called the strong arm merkin. Yes, they’re furry:
Anyway “Pit Merkin” is a great metal band name, you’re fuckin’ welcome
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Which goes back to the above: “Americans are crazy. having perfectly natural hair under her armpits would be unacceptably disgusting for an American”
Wouldn’t want to accurately portray women’s natural bodies lest they think it might be acceptable to be unshaven.
Or maybe she, the actress, prefers it, and she, the actress, didn’t want to change something superficial for the show.
Personally I don’t like body hair. It’s coarse and irritating.
I still believe there should be more representation in media of women with body hair.
We should normalize picking what’s best for each person individually and not trying to portray a certain way that women are “supposed” to look.
Funnily enough, I personally prefer body hair because it’s softer than stubble. But that’s my personal preference and not one I tell others that they should do just to please me. (not saying you are doing this, just putting thoughts to words).
Fiona Dourif did a fantastic job portraying Bart in this show. If being clean shaven is how they wanted to appear on screen, I think their right to do so supersedes any obligation they have to ‘normalize’ anything for anyone else. It certainly did not harm the performance.
I’m not criticizing their performance or their individual choices.
I’m criticizing how the media wants to portray women as completely hairless all of the time.
The media is made up of individuals with their own choices or autonomy. It’s fair to say “I wish this got more representation in media” but it’s entity unfair to criticise specific individuals for not upholding a specific standard. The original premise was “what if being clean shaven was her choice?” in which case it would be nobody’s place to hold that against her.
Natural body is a polite way of framing ungroomed. Men nor women like seeing poor hygiene. Some types of poor hygiene are seen as worse than others. Dirty hair? Sorta gross. Body hair? Disgusting.
Oh, men are supposed to shave their body hair or they’re disgusting?
I mean, I’m morally consistent on this one in that I think everyone looks better smooth. Yall can be hairy if you want though.
Thanks for recognizing the difference between personal preference and personal choice <3
I should call her…
pleeeease
If you want men to like your body, yes. Personally, I don’t want that.
You sound like my dad asking why I’d date someone with tattoos because according to him tattoos are ugly.
Your personal preferences don’t dictate what others like.
My husband loves my hairy body. 🤷♂️ Finding hair disgusting and unsanitary isn’t a natural state for men, it’s something you’ve been taught. Clean hair isn’t unhygienic.
In my instance armpit hair is unhygienic. If I don’t remove it, my BO will break through 72h deoderant in 4 hours.
And if I don’t shave my balls I get a psorisis flareup in an area you really don’t want psorisis.
Can I assume you also believe that women only want hairy men then? Because I’m pretty certain you’re going to get pushback on that too.
It’s a great way to filter out men who don’t deserve access to my body.
My sex life never diminished when I stopped shaving.
For real? Did i understand you correct that for you it’s worse having clean hair in armpits or on legs than unwashed hair on the head?
Do you also remove ALL of your own body hair?
It is possible to not ever cut any of your hair and still be hygienic and clean!
Natural landscape is such a hippie way of framing unpaved!
Are men with trimmed beards gross and unhygienic?
Isn’t that for you to decide? I know gay men who think facial hair is disgusting. Some like it. Regardless, I don’t get to tell my audience what they like, which is what you’re trying to do.
I didn’t make the assertion that body hair is unhygienic.
You made the implied assertion that people need to like it because it’s natural.
It’s so annoying when people edit their comments after they get replies.
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I know American women with armpit hair, I don’t retch when I see them
As an American woman with armpit hair, I get a lot of unsolicited comments.
It would be nice if there were more representation of adult women’s bodies in media.
I’m sorry, you shouldn’t have to put up with that
What the fuck is wrong with people?
In this case? Misogyny.
People take issue when women don’t contort themselves into a socially accepted image.
Yes… Americans are to blame for the BBC show…
It was a BBC America show, which is a subsidiary of AMC Networks. I dont think it even had a British broadcast.
No Americans are to blame for what was reported about Americans. Because the report is true.
If it was false, BBC would be to blame.
Do you claim the story is false?
Wtf are you talking about
Do you make obnoxious broad generalizations about every massively diverse country on earth, or just the USA?
I don’t know of any other country where it’s considered a scandal if a famous woman has hair under her arms.
American audience doesn’t mean everybody in that audience, Americans doesn’t mean everybody either, just enough to make it an issue.
And in both cases it’s more than enough to make it an issue. Because it’s not just a couple of weirdos, it the mainstream media too.
So the broad generalization was made by you in your head, maybe because you felt included, why did you feel included?
Do you think hair under the arms is disgusting?