It’s only “eating the onion” if the claim was obviously intended as a joke. When a fictional claim is plausible, and plainly taken as sincere by most audiences… that’s just lying.
Culpability is not the issue, intent is. Lying by accident isn’t lying. Someone failing to pick up on your widely recognized status as a satire rag and choosing instead to believe whatever the fuck they come across is also not lying —or said rag’s fault. 🤷🏼♂️
Many sources of bad satire have no reputation, or have a reputation for missing a lot of easy swings. Failure to correct for that becomes knowingly pushing false claims that people will believe - possibly well within reason. Some of these motherfuckers do not understand what satire is. They just make shit up and assume everyone’s gonna ‘get the joke.’ But if the joke just that they’re making shit up, then it’s alarmingly easy for made-up shit to be less stupid than real life.
I feel that you’re missing some points here and skating very close to a number of logical fallacies, but I’m simply way too knackered rn to argue for its own sake.
We’re not talking about The Onion, famed source of high-quality bullshit.
We’re talking about rando Twitter accounts and fly-by-night “comedy” blogs utterly whiffing it.
If this widely-reported list of demands turns out to be simple bullshit, then the people who bought it weren’t being silly and misinterpreting visible absurdity. They were misled by a sadly believable extension of the hellscape we inhabit. The Idiot has been openly talking about annexing Canada. Nothing on this list is out-there enough that anyone should be expected to go, oh I see, ha ha, what a funny.
Is that an actual turn of phrase?
When you mistake an onion article (satire) for something real we say the person ate the onion.
It’s only “eating the onion” if the claim was obviously intended as a joke. When a fictional claim is plausible, and plainly taken as sincere by most audiences… that’s just lying.
It’s lying only if that was the intent of said satirical publication to imply veracity —but what kind of fuc– oh.
I disagree with the premise. Bad satire can have the same effect as deliberate misinformation, and more people sharing it.
Some of whom apparently think believability is a feature. ‘Ooh, this one got me!’ when the appropriate reaction is blunt criticism.
Culpability is not the issue, intent is. Lying by accident isn’t lying. Someone failing to pick up on your widely recognized status as a satire rag and choosing instead to believe whatever the fuck they come across is also not lying —or said rag’s fault. 🤷🏼♂️
Many sources of bad satire have no reputation, or have a reputation for missing a lot of easy swings. Failure to correct for that becomes knowingly pushing false claims that people will believe - possibly well within reason. Some of these motherfuckers do not understand what satire is. They just make shit up and assume everyone’s gonna ‘get the joke.’ But if the joke just that they’re making shit up, then it’s alarmingly easy for made-up shit to be less stupid than real life.
I feel that you’re missing some points here and skating very close to a number of logical fallacies, but I’m simply way too knackered rn to argue for its own sake.
We’re not talking about The Onion, famed source of high-quality bullshit.
We’re talking about rando Twitter accounts and fly-by-night “comedy” blogs utterly whiffing it.
If this widely-reported list of demands turns out to be simple bullshit, then the people who bought it weren’t being silly and misinterpreting visible absurdity. They were misled by a sadly believable extension of the hellscape we inhabit. The Idiot has been openly talking about annexing Canada. Nothing on this list is out-there enough that anyone should be expected to go, oh I see, ha ha, what a funny.