• gedfromgont@piefed.ca
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    Europe didn’t really “ditch Windows” though or did it. You see news of some places switching to Linux or planning to switch, but if you work in a company in Europe and its not an IT company, chances are they are using Windows still. Consumers may have left Windows for Linux somewhat but most are still stuck there as well.

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      26 minutes ago

      I’ve recently looked at some statistics to get a sense of Linux overall market share, and it does seem to be hovering around 7% currently, which is a heck of a lot for Linux but of course still less than every 10th PC. And then there’s some more wrinkles to that.

      For example one wrinkle I didn’t know about is this is skewed by a few countries, namely India has a gigantic 30% of Linux market share iirc. So you might know about the Linux growth if you live in India, but not as much in the US or Europe.

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      Consumers may have left Windows for Linux somewhat but most are still stuck there as well.

      I work in a STEM-heavy university. Nerds everywhere, and many are computer nerds. I only know one other person here that daily-drives linux out of the hundreds I work with. I am very sceptical of the consumer market share statistics.

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      Indeed. After a couple of years of using Linux at work because no one gave shit what I used as long as I got my work done, a few weeks back I was given a new Windows PC and told I had to use it, because the company now cares about cybersecurity and everyone has been ‘upgraded’ to Win11 and Office 365.

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        I had an argument with my boss where he was trying to stop people checking out source code to company laptops because they could be lost. My retort was that the company uploaded all it’s company documents, spreadsheets, and other data to the cloud including employee personal data, and that was far for likely to experience a data breach. Those breaches would result in legal issues for the company, rather than a slight embarrassment.

        He was apoplectic. How dare I question company policy.

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        At least in your case they didn’t give the false hope. In my case two years ago company just stated that we “enrolling in ms ecosystem”. That meant that to use your PC within company’s domain, you had to authorize it with MS account or none of sites would work. Weirdly, MS does support that not only on windows, but also on linux and MacOS. And if MacOS is simple (and supported by our tech team), linux installation is awful — it requires ubuntu lts + to install ms antivirus, that will override some system filles on top of that and will have root access afaik. Well, I don’t want company to control my personal device anyway, so I just installed win11 in qemu with tpm emulation and gpu passthrough and activated this “company account” shit there. Good luck spying on not activated bare w11 copy.

        If job market wasn’t fucked, probably would just leave instead tho.

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      Just had to deal a few things with my local municipality offices and my email not being a Gmail was a big, big issue and cause of long wondering. If we (we and we, normal peeps outside of Lemmy and all) don’t even know what is a non-Google email, or why someone would use one, or the basics of Open Source, no, they won’t know about operating systems either. Maybe that could make the change easier, but it won’t make people understand why we’d need to make the change. Linux what?

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        If you have your own company, you would naturally use the.boss@theBestCompanyEver.lol email for these kinds of purposes. Shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. On the other hand, nobody prohibits you from getting a domain and hosting your own email even if you don’t have a company. Sure, they probably have a long list of gmail users already, but the other people will have all sorts of random email addresses, so I don’t see what’s the problem. There are lots of valid reasons to use some other service besides gmail.

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        Surely China can’t be fine with the US poking around their government computers? Or are they?

        I don’t understand how another country can use another hostile country’s closed operating system for sensitive material.

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          I would guess that Microsoft has to comply to Chinese privacy and data laws, AND that China’s firewall also might block a lot of the telemetry.

          I agree nonetheless. They should be using Linux a long time ago.

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      3 hours ago

      Had to look this up in urban dictionary. Reality Distortion Field, if anyone is curious.

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    IIRC it was 15 years ago that China wanted to get rid of Winblows. I’ll believe they have gotten rid of it once they stop saying “planning to get of by”.

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      These companies have built Kylin and Unity Operating System, respectively, with the former evolving from FreeBSD into its own OS, and the latter being based on Deepin, which itself is based on Debian.