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I have an old box running Gnome on Ubuntu. I did a massive update hoping they finally fixed some of my gripes with it.
still no right click -> create text file in the file browser
Welp, I’ll update again in two years
KDE forever. I don’t understand anyone who still uses Gnome.
i agree kde is awesome
GNOME just works for me. Installed the blur the shell extension or whatever it’s called, and that’s it! In 5 years, never felt the need for anything more!
If Gnome ran a restaurant, the waiter chooses the meal for you, and tut & shake their head if you try to deviate from it.
If KDE ran a restaurant, if you shake the menu it’ll grow exponentially in size until it fills the restaurant.If Gnome ran a restaurant, the waiter chooses the meal for you, and tut & shake their head if you try to deviate from it.
And if you want to add salt and pepper to your meal, there’s a convenient store across the street that sells salt and pepper shakers. No, the Gnome restaurant will not be providing them.
The Gnome waiter just stares in shock and confusion when you mention that you have nut allergy
Are you implying GNOME is the ableist desktop environment? It might be even though it has lots of accessibility features.
Implication or not. GNOME is hit or miss with accessibility features. They’ve done some stuff, but they could still do more at no particular greater cost to them other than a shift in attitude. Which…you know… GNOME.
The gnome type of restaurant is called prix fixe, and it very much exists.
Yes, and 99.9% of the meals you eat in your life will not be there. Because it is either prohibitively expensive and elitist gourmet BS. Or it is trivially easy to offer some choice when it is not elitist gourmet BS.
Even at a more mundane restaurant, only having one meal for each course to worry about drastically simplifies life for the entire back line, plus it makes life easier for the chef or whoever does the ordering as well.
Even low fixed price day-menu restaurants in my town offer some basic choice or variation. People have food limitations and preferences.
I’ve been to a restaurant in Korea where you pay per person and they just serve you one main dish (you have no choice) and like 8 unlimited side dishes
It was about $5 and you had a choice of topping up or not. It was great, actually
Cool, having choices is great, like you get to choose the side dishes and the toppings. That sounds awesome.
That type of restaurant tends to be among the best in the world.
Which makes sense. If each day you offer one choice you can make that one really good.
But for someone who doesn’t like that specific food it doesn’t work. They’d prefer having different options.
Kind of similar with gnome and KDE.
The difference is, most people go to a restaurant to eat food, so the restaurant can get really good at making food that humans eat.
People use a computer system to do all kinds of things. It is a lot harder to make one choice that will please everybody.
without features that few people are going to use
Every KDE user has shaken the mouse once just to see how big it gets, this is a critical feature!
Doesn’t work for me in KDE anymore???
Edit:
It stopped working because I switched back to X11, it only works in Wayland, but I had to switch back, I think it was because some hot keys don’t work and can’t be configured under Wayland. Or at least couldn’t when I configured my system about a year ago.The secret reason Wayland is superior.
At last we found a killer feature for its users!
Unfortunately I had to switch back to X11 because Plasma on Wayland lacked a feature I need.
Well, now X11 lacks a feature you want…
Guys chillax, there is only one respecting winner here; Thumbs down, XFCE.
Customising (not gonna say the racist word)?..XFCE.
Lightweight?..XFCE.
Can look like the other two?..XFCE.
Can be debloated even in the settings?..XFCE.
Supports both X11 and wayland (if that matters)?..XFCE.
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written by: (hopefully) fellow XFCE glazer.
P.S. Yes I mean that sarcastic/non-sarcastic. Yes I’m in my own bubble. Yes I use systemd free systems (and waiting for a good glibc-free one too!). Yes I’m autistic.
Isnt xfce less lightweight than KDE? Just because it looks like shit doesnt make it efficient.
No it isn’t. Unless KDE has had a major debloat since KDE4. XFCE is lightning fast.
They have similar ram usage profiles and similar cpu usage. That on top of the KDE having a ton of extra functionally is why I say KDE is more efficient. Maybe its not the case if the machine has no GPU to offload to. The benchmark wasnt super indepth.
KDE wins again
Someone discovered shake cursor…
Wait until they discover wobbly windows and The Cube.
Compiz 4 lyfe
Or Wayfire. I confess to having wobbled windows as fast as possible until my graphics driver crashed.
Honestly I always disabled all animations. I don’t want eyecandy. Preferably I want to control the computer with a neural link that integrates my thoughts as a control surface. Or Sway, in lieu of that.
Or rescue terminal. I also feel safe and loved in the grub rescue environment.
Often times when there was a big new update for GNOME, I’d try it out, decide I still don’t like the concept and go back to plasma.
I don’t get the appeal of that desktop. Even the tiniest changes need gnome-tweaks? Why isn’t that stuff part of the base settings? But ok. You can’t ungimp GNOME. The usage concept is baked into it. Fine. But why?
I mean there must be people who want this and nothing else, otherwise people wouldn’t use it.
I don’t really like to talk about it on here because people are very hostile towards GNOME and its users, but I used it (extensionless, tweakless) for about 4 years up until recently. Very comfy and efficient workflow in my opinion. I think a lot of people don’t take the time to understand how it works, they get frustrated and want their alt-tabbing and minimizing back. Either way I don’t really care. No emotional attachment to any DE, and I use neither GNOME nor Plasma right now.
I use neither GNOME nor Plasma right now.
What do you use currently? I’ve been using GNOME for a few years now, but I like to try new things (then switch back to GNOME, naturally.)
Currently using niri. It’s not easy to explain, but you could say it takes GNOME’s concept of infinite horizontal workspaces and applies it to individual windows.
That’s one I’ve been meaning to try out. Do you use Niri with Noctalia or some other Quick Shell implementation with it? I’ve been looking at Noctalia and DMS.
Yeah, I briefly tried out Noctalia, Caelestia and DMS and chose DMS. They all feel a bit too bloated for me, but on this PC I can’t be bothered to setup all the utilities manually. It has worked just fine but I can unfortunately feel the QT framework.
The massive cursor during shake is literally what sold two of my friends on Garuda getting them off Windows 😂 idk why I guess the wimsy factor is difficult to account for.
The cube thing from compiz had a similar effect back in the earlier years of Ubuntu.
Wait until they find it you can make the windows wiggle when you shake them.
I discovered this when configuring a new machine the other day, great fun and I was sad to disable it when I discovered it made moving and resizing windows much more fiddly :'(
