“New and relatively inexperienced” come now, can we not do this nonsense?
You saying something is nonsense doesn’t make it so. AOC would be the youngest president in U.S. history if elected. Her only experience is being a member of the House for 7 years. Only ONCE IN AMERICAN HISTORY (1880) has someone been elected president directly from the House. And I’m not going to accept the argument about Trump having no experience. Liberals are not conservatives. Conservatives openly support felon rapist pedophiles who regularly violate our Constitution and this is not the first time they’ve elected a TV personality to be president. There is no valuable comparison between us and them.
Begging for useless
How is Mark Kelly useless? He has more experience than AOC and has qualities that connect him with a higher percentage of Americans. The internet doesn’t represent reality. If it did Bernie Sanders would be president. Just because AOC is liked on Reddit/Lemmy doesn’t mean she stands a better chance than Mark Kelly or makes him “useless”.
centrist
Mark Kelly wants to abolish the filibuster in order to pass voting rights legislation. He wants to increase the minimum wage. He is pro choice. He wants to codify Roe v Wade. These are definitely left leaning beliefs.
Mamdani and Al-Sayed and the other progressives seeing support is happening in real-time
Mamdani can never win a national election because he can never become president. He won an election in a DEEP blue area of our country. Al-Sayed has not won the governorship yet. And winning a governorship is a WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME to winning a national election in which he’d have to get racist ass middle America to vote for him, or not vote against him, which simply wouldn’t happen.
so take this weird-ass attitude and shove it.
Nah kid. You need to stop allowing your EMOTIONS to dictate your beliefs and start accepting the reality you live in and work within that reality to get as close as possible to what you want. Because enough other people exist in this world that don’t want what you want to keep you from having exactly what you want. And the fact that far left candidates and 3rd parties keep losing on a national scale should be enough proof for you. Because right now you don’t seem to grasp the difference between a national, federal election and every other election.
Zohran Mamdani only had 4 years of experience before becoming a highly effective mayor of fucking New York City, are you high off your fucking balls?! Experience doesn’t mean jack shit if it’s just been decades of being terrible at your job. Being old doesn’t mean jack-shit unless you’re old and bitter that younger people are better than you at stuff.
I’m talking specifically about you walking in here feeling yourself up because you don’t have any fight left in you. Yes, I’m sure this Kelly fella wouldn’t be the end of the world but oh my god ya’ll are fucking cowards. Frankly, so are us Canadians for the exact same reasons. You lose because you’ve decided you’re gunna lose before anything has even started, and you lose because the only thoughts in your head are based on propaganda.
“I would vote for _____ but they might not win so…“ actually piss off to the bottom of the ocean.
Zohran Mamdani only had 4 years of experience before becoming a highly effective mayor of fucking New York City, are you high off your fucking balls?!
Again. You fail to see the difference between a mayoral election in a deep blue city and a national election involving millions upon millions of bigots in the right geographical areas to win a national election.
We cannot have a meaningful interaction until you are able to discern between the two.
If you are an adult, you have to accept that different candidates have different qualities and those qualities can make them more or less electable based on the type of election they are in. If you vote for someone that doesn’t have electable qualities within the system the election is taking place, you are wasting your vote.
You’re just shitting all over quality candidates because you’re terrified of losing. You have this backwards logic of “I will only support them when they get support” and, if you truly believe that, you expect others to follow it as well. But if everyone follows it, where does that leave you?
By not supporting someone, you are contributing to what people see as “electable qualities” and YOU are saying that something can’t be done. This is how centrists, who are really just conservatives, have become so fucking pervasive.
You saying something is nonsense doesn’t make it so. AOC would be the youngest president in U.S. history if elected. Her only experience is being a member of the House for 7 years. Only ONCE IN AMERICAN HISTORY (1880) has someone been elected president directly from the House. And I’m not going to accept the argument about Trump having no experience. Liberals are not conservatives. Conservatives openly support felon rapist pedophiles who regularly violate our Constitution and this is not the first time they’ve elected a TV personality to be president. There is no valuable comparison between us and them.
How is Mark Kelly useless? He has more experience than AOC and has qualities that connect him with a higher percentage of Americans. The internet doesn’t represent reality. If it did Bernie Sanders would be president. Just because AOC is liked on Reddit/Lemmy doesn’t mean she stands a better chance than Mark Kelly or makes him “useless”.
Mark Kelly wants to abolish the filibuster in order to pass voting rights legislation. He wants to increase the minimum wage. He is pro choice. He wants to codify Roe v Wade. These are definitely left leaning beliefs.
Mamdani can never win a national election because he can never become president. He won an election in a DEEP blue area of our country. Al-Sayed has not won the governorship yet. And winning a governorship is a WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME to winning a national election in which he’d have to get racist ass middle America to vote for him, or not vote against him, which simply wouldn’t happen.
Nah kid. You need to stop allowing your EMOTIONS to dictate your beliefs and start accepting the reality you live in and work within that reality to get as close as possible to what you want. Because enough other people exist in this world that don’t want what you want to keep you from having exactly what you want. And the fact that far left candidates and 3rd parties keep losing on a national scale should be enough proof for you. Because right now you don’t seem to grasp the difference between a national, federal election and every other election.
Zohran Mamdani only had 4 years of experience before becoming a highly effective mayor of fucking New York City, are you high off your fucking balls?! Experience doesn’t mean jack shit if it’s just been decades of being terrible at your job. Being old doesn’t mean jack-shit unless you’re old and bitter that younger people are better than you at stuff.
I’m talking specifically about you walking in here feeling yourself up because you don’t have any fight left in you. Yes, I’m sure this Kelly fella wouldn’t be the end of the world but oh my god ya’ll are fucking cowards. Frankly, so are us Canadians for the exact same reasons. You lose because you’ve decided you’re gunna lose before anything has even started, and you lose because the only thoughts in your head are based on propaganda.
“I would vote for _____ but they might not win so…“ actually piss off to the bottom of the ocean.
Again. You fail to see the difference between a mayoral election in a deep blue city and a national election involving millions upon millions of bigots in the right geographical areas to win a national election.
We cannot have a meaningful interaction until you are able to discern between the two.
If you are an adult, you have to accept that different candidates have different qualities and those qualities can make them more or less electable based on the type of election they are in. If you vote for someone that doesn’t have electable qualities within the system the election is taking place, you are wasting your vote.
You’re just shitting all over quality candidates because you’re terrified of losing. You have this backwards logic of “I will only support them when they get support” and, if you truly believe that, you expect others to follow it as well. But if everyone follows it, where does that leave you?
By not supporting someone, you are contributing to what people see as “electable qualities” and YOU are saying that something can’t be done. This is how centrists, who are really just conservatives, have become so fucking pervasive.