I only learned of this one from Behind the Bastards
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On 3 December 1984, over 500,000 people in the vicinity of the Union Carbide India Limited pesticide plant in Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India, were exposed to the highly toxic gas methyl isocyanate, in what is considered the world’s worst industrial disaster.[3] A government affidavit in 2006 stated that the leak caused approximately 558,125 injuries, including 38,478 temporary partial injuries and 3,900 severely and permanently disabling injuries.[4] Estimates vary on the death toll, with the official number of immediate deaths being 2,259.[5] Others estimate that 8,000 died within two weeks of the incident occurring, and another 8,000 or more died from gas-related diseases.[6] In 1989, Union Carbide Corporation (UCC) of the United States paid $470 million (equivalent to $1.03 billion in 2024) to settle litigation stemming from the disaster.[7]
They burn plastic, Modi is killing/jailing climate change activists, and literally every single waterway I saw was choked with plastic. Every single animal I saw looked like it was on deaths door, aside from young animals - they didn’t look much better.
All in all, India is one of the most depressing places I’ve ever had the displeasure of visiting. Any change the west tries to make regarding the climate will be instantly wiped out by a country like India. I would call the whole country an environmental catastrophe if it weren’t for places like Kerala, which if I’m not mistaken is also just fucked now.
I have never had worse food poisoning, and the people were nice but I can’t say that I actually ‘met’ anyone. I can say that I had a decent conversation with a Kashmiri man who really only wanted to sell me his stuff (got a magnetic chessboard and a scarf, the interaction was genuinely the highlight of the 10 days), and an uber driver who was very kind but struggled with English. Oh, none of them would address my girlfriend by the way - it was only me, the man. That alongside the animals made her particularly depressed.
The people were the most depressing part, for me. I know that wealth inequality is bad here in the states, but seeing it somewhere like India is just… eye opening. It can get a whole hell of a lot worse here, if a place like India is any indication (no pun intended).
We studied that in university from a industrial and aviation safety expert. Its really worth reading how that shit came about. The human stupidity on this was recklessness on steroids.
One example: the siren that should be used to evacuate all personnel was used daily to call employees to lunch.
The whole TSA security theater in airports came about because of 9/11. Air travel was much different before that, just walk through a simple metal detector and anyone can go all the way up to the gate to greet or send off your traveling friend/family.
The first 3 are American, I could see a foreigner not knowing. My sister is a teacher in Europe and she says none of her students knew about the Holocaust. These are teenagers. I think maybe we might be fucked as a species.
Should we double check, and make sure he knows what Pearl Harbor was? And Hiroshima, and Nagasaki? And the Holocaust?
What? It’s not unreasonable to say he may have missed some key moments in history.
Bhopal disaster
I only learned of this one from Behind the Bastards
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Since I’ve come back from India I’ve sort of just been waiting to hear about an environmental disaster there. This makes sense.
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They burn plastic, Modi is killing/jailing climate change activists, and literally every single waterway I saw was choked with plastic. Every single animal I saw looked like it was on deaths door, aside from young animals - they didn’t look much better.
All in all, India is one of the most depressing places I’ve ever had the displeasure of visiting. Any change the west tries to make regarding the climate will be instantly wiped out by a country like India. I would call the whole country an environmental catastrophe if it weren’t for places like Kerala, which if I’m not mistaken is also just fucked now.
Did meeting great people and eating delicious food at least mean it wasn’t all bad?
I have never had worse food poisoning, and the people were nice but I can’t say that I actually ‘met’ anyone. I can say that I had a decent conversation with a Kashmiri man who really only wanted to sell me his stuff (got a magnetic chessboard and a scarf, the interaction was genuinely the highlight of the 10 days), and an uber driver who was very kind but struggled with English. Oh, none of them would address my girlfriend by the way - it was only me, the man. That alongside the animals made her particularly depressed.
The people were the most depressing part, for me. I know that wealth inequality is bad here in the states, but seeing it somewhere like India is just… eye opening. It can get a whole hell of a lot worse here, if a place like India is any indication (no pun intended).
a new environmental disaster or one of the usuals
Every single waterway was choked with plastic. Genuinely depressing.
We studied that in university from a industrial and aviation safety expert. Its really worth reading how that shit came about. The human stupidity on this was recklessness on steroids.
One example: the siren that should be used to evacuate all personnel was used daily to call employees to lunch.
You can imagine how that ended.
To be fair 9/11 is probably going to be forgotten about way sooner
It’s not too relevant for a school history lesson because it didn’t have too many consequences except for the Iraq war
uncomfortable afghanistan noises
The whole TSA security theater in airports came about because of 9/11. Air travel was much different before that, just walk through a simple metal detector and anyone can go all the way up to the gate to greet or send off your traveling friend/family.
Naninjing, dresden, tokio bombing, pol pot… there is no shortage of atrocicites.
The first 3 are American, I could see a foreigner not knowing. My sister is a teacher in Europe and she says none of her students knew about the Holocaust. These are teenagers. I think maybe we might be fucked as a species.
…like, all of it?
But more to the point, I call bullshit. I cannot think of a country in Europe where the Holocaust is not well known.
I really hope she was bullshitting me but she seemed serious. This is in Bulgaria.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are in Japan?
It was an American attack, American history goes into much more detail about it than across the pond.
America attacked Pearl Harbor?
Pearl Harbor was an inside job
Uhhhhhh, I wouldn’t classify Hiroshima and Nagasake as “Disasters in American history”.
I’d say they are “Disasters in Japanese history”.
Not as a species, just as workers under capitalism
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So thing about history, too recent history isn’t taught. Because the system is made around your parents teaching you what they went through.
Like lots of muricans forget about minsk and go neanerthal about russia. Happens a lot