• amelia@feddit.org
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    1 month ago

    This further illustrates how absolutely crazy it is to produce these devices for a single use and then just throw them away, not even making sure they can be recycled properly. It’s complete madness. I hope they’ll be banned soon, I think the EU is working on it.

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      1 month ago

      They should absolutely ban disposable but as long as they’re smart about it and don’t try and make it a general vape ban. Anything with a microcontroller and OLED display should need regulation to be “disposable”. So fucking wasteful.

      Vapes can and have always been something you can pop a battery and cartridge and custom juice in. There’s zero reason to make it disposable. Make the coil/cotton/juice cartridge disposable… Like a juul was last I checked? That’s reasonable.

      And then next regulate how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml is fucking insane. That is heart issue level of nicotine. I got buzzed off 12 mg/ml, used 3 or 6mg/ml regularly, and quit at 1.5mg/ml. There’s no fucking reason other than harm and addiction to provide 60mg/ml.

      • SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz
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        1 month ago

        OLED maybe but small micros are now so cheap and so small that they’re negligible.

        Battery is probably still the biggest environmental impact.

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          1 month ago

          One of those 3 cent one time programmable microcontrollers would be sufficient. Something with enough power to run a web server is just wasteful.

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          30 days ago

          Du kriegst auch in Deutschland sehr leicht Vapes mit mehr als 20mg/ml, sind nur eben illegal. Der Schwarzmarkt für Vapes ist groß

      • michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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        1 month ago

        don’t try and make it a general vape ban. In some EU contries 10ml liquid costs more than pack of cigarettes, so they defacto banned vaping. how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml 20 mg/ml is EU wide limit since 2025

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        1 month ago

        Disposable vapes are already forbidden, at least in France, idk if it is union wide.

        But yeah, those things make no sense. The only thing with a battery that should be disposable would be fire alarm. Not because of the battery, but because the main sensor has a 10 years lifespan due to its natural deterioration.