- cross-posted to:
- climate@slrpnk.net
- cross-posted to:
- climate@slrpnk.net
The Trump administration was not invited to the gathering in Santa Marta, Colombia. A White House spokeswoman called the green transition “destructive.”
Agreement to conduct the necessary phase out is probably not possible if a country run for the benefit of the oil industry is involved in any meaningful way
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Makes sense. The Trump admin would 100% send someone with explicit instructions to make headlines by disrupting things.
Even if they didn’t obstruct, their lack of buy-in into any decided measures is a foregone conclusion. They even refuse to acknowledge the problem.
They would 100% sabotage and try to derail the event. Ignoring them is the only logical solution.
Please keep us out. The faster the world moves on from even interacting with the US the better.
Also build up your armies. We’re still run by a man child and one of our two major political parties thinks that if we can take something, it’s ours.
I won’t say you’re wrong but misguided. Our leaders are still behaving as if the world needs to controlled by binary ideologies. We have the ability to do great things if only we’d focus on providing for Humanity over selfishness.
I don’t think an army needs to be strong enough to defeat us but strong enough to give us trouble. Without a major existential threat the US doesn’t have the stomach for prolonged wars anymore.
Good. It’s time for the world to move on without us.
Perhaps this is a challenge goal to help reestablish international trust once we start recovering from our current national mental breakdown
Is it too much to dream that even after jumping on board late, we reach the finish line while helping support our fellow nations across?
I think it’s more about hedging bets against the US never recovering from the current mental breakdown.
Yes. Even if a sane administration gets in again, the trust is gone. If this can happen twice it probably will happen once again in the not too distant future.
Trust comes on foot and leaves on horseback.
The US, and a few other petrostates, which have worked together to block consensus within the existing COP process
No green energy. No windmills because they kill birds, no solar because of there is no sun, no power. Just beautiful coal and illegally obtained oil. And don’t get me started on the department of health and RFK Jr. The US is going backwards in such a rapid pace, almost gives me whiplash.
No just US. China, Russia and Saudi Arabia will also be missing. It really is time to just exclude those countries from global negotiations. They only goal is obstruction. This should have been done a decade ago.
Not to be a tankie, but it does seem China is making some headway in clean energy, thank god. Hopefully it makes up for us as fuck up in some way and we don’t pass any points of no return 😅
From a cynical standpoint, China is only doing it to become less dependent on fossil fuel, should a major war occurs and trade in South China Sea becomes disrupted.
But still, if this motivation adds to the overall development of renewable energy, it’s still a win.
Well you still have Canada there, and they will most likely push for some strong commitment on best effort only, or similar crap.
The fact that they invited only limited number of countries suggests they are done with unanimous consent and are looking for countries that actually want to do something instead. So if majority of countries want to do something and Canada will be trying to block it they can just ignore it and do it without Canada.
That’s what Trump wants, right? To isolate the US from other countries and let them work stuff out themselves? Looks like his strategy is working. But of course cry baby wants to be included and mingle in other countries’ business.
Trump doesn’t want anything but money and power. He has the most base motivations of anyone I’ve ever seen. Any actual strategy does not come from him. He’s too clumsy and unintelligent for planning things in a coherent manner.
Understandable
The US is irrelevant in these conversations.
It’s a global imperative, as well as in most nations own security interests, to become independent of fossil fuels.
What needs to be agreed is how the willing are going to fight back against the oil baron’s billions, because they’ll do anything, anything, to remain relevant and profitable.
Yeah, it’d be unhelpful at best to have an American representative involved. But more likely they’d be actively trying to sabotage the whole thing, so this was pretty obviously the right move.
As they should.
Not so random question: does the US have laws forbidding a senator or other federal official from accepting a direct invite to something like this without approval?
I.E. if the invitation was extended to someone who would support the initiative, even if not approved by the administration?
It would be a waste, even if the person accepts they have to bring it back to be voted on.
Technically no. Especially if an invite gets extended to someone in the legislative branch.
But we’re in fascism times now. Trump can fuck up anyone who opposes him.
Sounds like a good idea. The petrostate should be excluded.
