All they had to do was improve their facial recognition to scan all photos. Scammers would use fake photos and put their real photo (ai edited slightly) as the their last photo. This allowed them to get verified, but still scam. They don’t need more biometrics. Other apps are doing fine without your iris scans.
Yeah but then they wouldn’t get to collect people’s biometric data to sell to the highest bidder.
From what I’ve read, the “dating” meat market apps are doing horrible. I doubt they want to invest in a sinking ship, at least more than they have to.
“Let’s partner with a bot maker to prevents bots. This is not about collecting and selling user data. No, not at all” 🙄😑
What if I train a generative AI on thousands of images of iris’s and start generating fake ones?
Gee I wonder where one might get a database full of iris scans?
There’s gotta bee a good enough example set somewhere for research already
OpenAI is the one running this “verification”. That’s exactly what they’ll be doing with the data
Oh, people didn’t like the idea of giving their ID to third parties? Let’s move up to irreplaceable body parts. Next step: your fucking blood. Good luck declaring that one stolen when the database inevitably leaks.
That reminds me of my ex, she was willing to give her physical address and phone number to anyone who asked, but not her email address, because of security concerns.
I didn’t realize there were still real people that use Tinder. I thought it was all bots by this point.
It was a spam bot swarm a decade ago.
I checked again around 2023, then it was full of human backed fake profiles that pushed cryptocoin scams. It’s called pig butchering.
Today I assume it’s still pog butchering but backed by LLMs instead of people.
pog butchering
Pogs are back? Finally, my investment will pay off!
PogChamp
I think I was last on it pre-pandemic and, yeah, it was a bot fest. The profiles that appeared to be legit humans weren’t all that impressive either.
I can’t imagine going back. Unless I pivot careers to crypto scammer.
Haven’t used Tinder in a few years, but I guess I won’t be using it in the future. I’m not scanning my eye to use what is arguably the worst dating app.
Why are they so insistant of iris scans? What are they getting out of it?
Data to sell
make the AIs better by scanning thousands of human eyes lol
Because it’s “futuristic” and fascists are obsessed with that image
No, it is because it is a unique identifier for them to collect and sell.
You know it’s most likely not an either/or thing. It’s most likely both.
Fascists are very obsessed with image. It’s a big chunk of why the Nazis hired Hugo Voss to design the SS uniforms
Fair enough.
Could be unique like a fingerprint. Might be able to crosscheck this with other biometric data, like when a picture is taken at airports or border crossings.
Those fast track lines at the airport I recently read somewhere is supplied by a private entity, which means all those face scans are just added into a database for future surveillance.
You can say no to the face scan at those. The TSA agents don’t get paid enough to try to convince you otherwise and just say “okay.” The amount of people just willingly scanning their faces for whatever nefarious bullshit they want to scan faces for does not surprise me, but does cause me dismay
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To keep people without eyes off their platform.
Sure, let’s pretend they care about that issue. It’s not about collecting user data to re-sell later, oh no
AI is not doing this all on it’s own.
Where there are fake profiles, there are also real human scammers owning them. And they won’t have no problem at all with buying enough real human data from somewhere.
So if tinder wanted to do such a thing for serious, they wouldn’t choose such a stupid , short-sighted action.
Maybe it is finally time for open-source(ish) dating to make an impact!
(It won’t. I tried it a couple years back and it is a ghost town!)
It’s probably a Goldilocks zone thing where too few prevents it from working, and too many will inevitably be overrun by bots and scanners.
hey, you can’t make bot profiles! that’s our thing!
If this truly were about keeping bots off the platform, I’d predict a great improvement in how genAI renders human eyes. Either way: supposed problem not solved, but more sensitive data collected in the process. Task failed successfully.
What stops a human running Tinder bot profiles from scanning their eyeball, getting the badge, and continuing on their merry way of running the bot?
If you can limit things to one bot per person, it will solve the problem. One bot per person is equivalent to traditional cat fishing.
I guess also they have an eye print that will identify the scammer if they’re ever caught.
I guess the have to be somewhat unique like a face.
Your iris is as unique as a fingerprint.
So… Not unique
It’s it easy to generate fake fingerprints though?
Oh I just watched a video on this the other day, apparently scammers (like the types who do romance scams, pretending to be a gorgeous guy, then taking all your money) are getting around this security function.
They upload all stolen pics of a gorgeous guy (probably exists for women versions too) then there’s one picture of them, because they have to have one pic of themselves to get the verification tick. But that one pic is obscured, like a face on a billboard or add on a poster on a street. And then tinder verifies the whole account, regardless of the other pics. I forget, it’s either bumble or hinge, I think it was bumble, deletes all the pics that don’t look like you, after verification, so those were sites that block that scam.
That’s an aside from ai profiles. There does need to be something to protect users from scammers. I couldn’t ever speak for what the best verification option is, myself.
I watched the video yesterday! Here are links for those interested:
Something very weird is happening on Tinder (YouTube)
Something very weird is happening on Tinder (Invidious mirror)
