Dude, what? I’ve never heard, and I’m guessing most people haven’t heard, of the Trek fandom being seen as fascist or zealous. Especially not the ‘heaviest Trekkies’. Are there some who are like that? Absolutely. I’ve met a fair few through Elite Dangerous, as sad as that is, but it’s certainly not the majority. Definitely not enough to have colored the entire movement that way. ESPECIALLY when the major Trek cast constantly push the idealism.
The rest of us are hearing this for the first time.
Not me, I grew up with one of those people and he was awful. And because he was the only Trekkie in the whole town, pretty much everyone I grew up with has a terrible opinion of star trek and its fans. I bet a lot of the negative perception of the show comes from people like that. People like that are not common, but neither are outspoken star trek fans in general, so most people probably have a pretty equal chance of meeting either type of fan.
So you had a bad experience with one man and then decided to paint everyone who liked the show with the same brush. You and your entire generation. From one dude?
That says everything about you and nothing about the fandom. There are assholes everywhere but one man is not representative of the fandom and if you believe that he is then that’s on you for judging entire groups of people based off of their actions.
Dude was an asshole but I’m honestly not sure if a douchebag fan is worse or someone who is so willing to color their opinions of entire groups of people/media because of their interactions with a single person.
Your characterization is simply untrue. Your personal experience may have led you to believe that but I take great offense at you coloring an entire fandom with a crayon that isn’t even in their box. Also heaviest and most vocal also is clearly untrue considering the heaviest and most vocal trekkies push the inspiring aspects of the world. You also don’t get to say that a fandom is toxic when openly admitting that the majority were not part of what you claim.
Your personal experiences are not universal. It is a new observation. Frankly I’m not a huge fan of you using such enormously wide brush strokes to paint an entire fandom as toxic that you know nothing about.
Dude, what? I’ve never heard, and I’m guessing most people haven’t heard, of the Trek fandom being seen as fascist or zealous. Especially not the ‘heaviest Trekkies’. Are there some who are like that? Absolutely. I’ve met a fair few through Elite Dangerous, as sad as that is, but it’s certainly not the majority. Definitely not enough to have colored the entire movement that way. ESPECIALLY when the major Trek cast constantly push the idealism.
Not me, I grew up with one of those people and he was awful. And because he was the only Trekkie in the whole town, pretty much everyone I grew up with has a terrible opinion of star trek and its fans. I bet a lot of the negative perception of the show comes from people like that. People like that are not common, but neither are outspoken star trek fans in general, so most people probably have a pretty equal chance of meeting either type of fan.
So you had a bad experience with one man and then decided to paint everyone who liked the show with the same brush. You and your entire generation. From one dude?
That says everything about you and nothing about the fandom. There are assholes everywhere but one man is not representative of the fandom and if you believe that he is then that’s on you for judging entire groups of people based off of their actions.
Dude was an asshole but I’m honestly not sure if a douchebag fan is worse or someone who is so willing to color their opinions of entire groups of people/media because of their interactions with a single person.
I never said it was the majority, I said the heaviest most vocal ones.
These people made Star Trek the original toxic fandom, it’s not a new observation.
Your characterization is simply untrue. Your personal experience may have led you to believe that but I take great offense at you coloring an entire fandom with a crayon that isn’t even in their box. Also heaviest and most vocal also is clearly untrue considering the heaviest and most vocal trekkies push the inspiring aspects of the world. You also don’t get to say that a fandom is toxic when openly admitting that the majority were not part of what you claim.
Your personal experiences are not universal. It is a new observation. Frankly I’m not a huge fan of you using such enormously wide brush strokes to paint an entire fandom as toxic that you know nothing about.