what is the furthest you’d go immorally for a fresh salary? Hell I’d work for Palantir for a nice $250k or be a manager at Evil Corporation Inc if I got a crisp $300k.
or are you a goody two shoes who will stand by your principles even if it means pain!


I’ve found it’s better to focus on people’s actions, rather than the people themselves. i.e. if I tell someone they as a person are a problem, that’s very hard for them to change. If I tell them their action is a problem, that’s a lot easier.
ofc it may still be tough to change their action, but at least it makes them consider why they are commiting that action, and it may even lead to the realization that (often) the problem is systemic.
That line is always said in direct response to something they do.
If you focus on the action, you allow a lot of people to take comfort in the illusion that they are a good person, despite their actions.
That’s not how it works. If you do evil, then you are part of the problem. That only changes once you stop.
I think we fundamentally agree, and are now just debating tactics. Personally I’ve found that telling someone they’re evil makes it easy for them to dismiss my opinion completely.
Yes.
And that’s not what I do. Participating in evil is evil. I remind people of that. It’s so normal that it’s easy to forget.
If a person isn’t evil, they should want to stop as soon as possible. The ones that care can easily forget to endeavor to do so. Me included.