The “Free World” is a propaganda term,[1][2] primarily used during the Second World War[3] and Cold War, to refer to the Allies, Western Bloc and aligned countries. - Wikipedia
For those not familiar with the phrasing. Always feels like being teleported back to the mid 1900s.
I will say it’s a solid propoganda term for regions in which many people feel like wage slaves and the antiestablishment fervor is at such a fever pitch that authoritarians are being voted in.
The same region thats financed a genocide in Gaza and has a power center that has an immigration and customs enforcement akin to the gestapo is the free world. Hmm. Might be time to retire this descriptor guys.
The biggest reason I have my doubts it was staged is I don’t think Trump’s competent enough to stage an assassination attempt that well. His ear could plausibly have been grazed by a bullet enough to make it bleed like that, but not leave any scarring. His ear looks intact even right after it happened:
If it was staged, it’s the most uncharacteristically competent thing he’s ever done.
Either fake or debris from the teleprompter hit his ear.
Trump was literally on professional wrestling where they cut their ears with razors to fake more serious injuries. Faking an assassination by bleeding his ear a bit is the most plausible scenario. He healed in days with no visible damage because it wasn’t a bullet it was a tiny cut. Maybe because he was taking advantage of a legit attempt, maybe because it was staged, I won’t comment on that but this had to have been kayfabe.
I happened to see a photo of his right side the other day and noticed that there is a little nick in the outer part of his ear cartilage, right about where the darkest red part is on this photo. And there’s that photo of the bullet going past his head where he grabs his ear and there’s blood on his fingers. I’m guessing that the bullet was close enough that maybe the air around it caused a wound? But there’s no way a bullet full-on hit his ear.
Regardless, I agree that it wasn’t staged. Just not as bad of a wound for him than they want us to believe (can’t say the same for the volunteer fireman, though…)
Because Roger Stone had no obligation to include the president. It was actually better the less he knew.
Doesn’t look like the usual earpiece to me. Or a regular ear.
What a substantial and wel worded rebuttal. Regardless, what’s your take then: Oddly shaped ear? Inflammation?
I’ll follow your initial post that he’s too incompetent to pull something like that off, but how much would he be running himself?
Ask yourself who could stage this and who would have the most to gain by doing and you will see what Isrealy going on behind the scenes. It was staged.
Maybe. But I choose to apply Occam’s razor to this one.
My friends and I refer to him as “Almost Hero”.
Unfortunately, he failed.
We know he was a lousy shoot.
Staged event obviously. Your ear doesn’t just miraculously regrow, never mind in 3 days
Yep definitely. Just look at Evander Holyfield’s ear that was bitten off by Mike Tyson back in 1997. Still missing to this day…
He’s the real deal Holyfield!
Anyone can watch the video and see the ear was just scraped, not severed. Ears are highly vascularized and bleed easily when nicked.
Here is what probably happened. Because this guy was a maga. That’s been established.
Someone recruited him to fire a blank. They assured him he would just be arrested or maybe do a fake death and give him a new identity. Though they planned to kill him.
They likely told him this would help secure trump the presidency.
And it was honorable.
They probably found him by profiling his social media activity.
Weird how he didn’t have much to be found huh? Almost like someone high up wiped his record?
This is what I think. This kid was told to fire a blank. Given a gun and the blank.
Told Where to be. When to do it.
And then killed so he could never talk.
Which means. Trump killed him too. A long with all the other deaths on his hands.
Eventually someone who knows, will snitch. No doubt some shady lawyer was involved somehow.
Nice foil hat, but the ear was barely scraped, not severed, and people behind Trump were critically injured or killed.
Corey Comperatore, are you guys going to call him a crisis actor? This thread reads like an Alex Jones podcast.
Secret service could have shot him. There were people there with live rounds.
Baseless conspiracy is baseless.
More than likely, this young man lapped up Trump’s violent rhetoric, then expirenced first-hand the damage his policies were doing. When you’ve been conditioned to think of political violence as the ultimate solution, and then suddenly realize that your “God-King” is a demented pedophile conman who fucked your whole town out of their money, rights and homes in order to enrich his pedophile billionaire buddies… Well, the rest is history. He took his shot.
I think the guy was a young impressionable idiot, but at least he had some balls, which is more than you can say for most people.
It’s true that disillusioned fanatics often turn violent. I’m willing to entertain your theory.
I still think the whole thing was staged.
Even if the ear was only nicked, there would be clear scarring.
But no scar. The flag being lowered for the photo op. How quickly the kid was killed yet no one spotted him setting up a rifle until he fired. But knew exactly where he was immediately after the shot was fired, and shot him.
I mean people still aren’t even sure where the bullet that hit jfk came from.
After all the stuff with Epstein files. Israel. The crypto scams. The inside trading. 34 convicted felonies.
You really think he wouldn’t do what I proposed?
He has no limits. He raped little girls. He bombed a girl’s school. He has openly admitted to vote manipulation in the election though many people from both sides deny it could have happened. He literally lies at a 10:1 ratio.
Why would anyone think anything he says or does is true or honorable in any way. ?
Fool you once shame on them. Fool you twice, shame on you.
Here’s the thing…
If it was staged, there is no way in hell trump would have left the stage. Guy loves his theatrics.
I don’t think he actually got clipped by a bullet. There is a huge number of things that can scratch your ear when you are tackled to the ground on top of broken glass.
The simple solution is that TC tried and missed.
The alternative is that trump was in on it, and managed to keep his mouth shut. And that he didn’t insist on grandstanding and bragging about being shot at during that very event. And the USSS was in on it and kept all their mouths shut. And there is a communication trail between the trump campaign and TC which no one has uncovered.
Remember, these fucking idiots can’t stop quiet snitching on each other because they are all fucking stupid. There is no way in hell they could keep a conspiracy this complex under wraps.
The majority of Congress is 100% loyal to him.
There is a huge conspiracy to protect the people in the Epstein files that’s been going on for decades.
There are plenty of people who would set this up.
Heritage foundation is one of them.
The maga people are fanatics. They are 100% loyal. And he is known to surround himself with such people.
If nothing else, such people like heritage foundation see him as a tool to be used. So their complicency is not based on their love of him but their need to keep him around to control.
I agree that lots of things can cause body damage. Still no scar though. After all that blood.
And the flag. The quick death of the shooter.It’s just too many sus things to excuse.
His ratings jumped after this little stunt.
Again, I’m not saying they are beyond trying it. I am saying that they are too fucking incompetent to actually do it and not leak it everywhere.
Okay so now I can definitely see your point.
They are incompetent as fuck.
When people say “I don’t think he would do that”. I’m like. Yes he would. He’s a narcissist sociopath.
But if you are saying. “Sure he might want to but their incompetence is very high”. Then I can agree that’s a strong counter argument.
beyond the moral problem of murder, the assassination, even if successful, would only radicalize people. its like the videogame dishonored where you can defeat the tyrannical government by killing everyone, but then you end up with the bad ending where another terrible leader takes over. but also fuck the good ending in dishonored… its such a pain to sneak around to avoid killing people.
the greatest enemy of the right wing, and conservatives in generals is each other.
I think it was a set up
I do too.
It’s absolutely inconceivable to me that USSS let a shooter get that close, that anyone could miss that shot, and that Trump would do anything but shit his pants and immediately save his own skin when faced with an actual threat
The Secret Service part might make more sense with more context. At the time, Trump had somewhat limited Secret Service because he was not the current president. And he was running his team ragged going to rally after rally, refusing their security recommendations.
They didn’t have the time or the manpower to do the job they were asked to do.
Then, this is just my theory, but although the Secret Service is like the best of the best police, I suspect Trump attracts the worst of the best of the best, if you know what I mean.
In every other job around him, Trump manages to fill it with the worst people available. Competent people don’t like working with Trump because he constantly interferes with their work. I see no reason why his security would be different.
I don’t know if it was a setup, but I’m confident Trump was not shot. Even an ear piercing leaves a scar. And that part of the ear doesn’t bleed much. Also, wounds don’t heal three days later.
But as much as any of that, Trump would shit his pants if he were actually shot.
And that part of the ear doesn’t bleed much.
it actually does.
Well that Depends, he might have shit his pants but as early as The Apprentice, he reportedly would soil himself and need to be cleaned up by an assistant on set that was nicknamed Wet Wipes.
https://youtu.be/W5uqAavJPAo - one of the show people talking about Wet Wipes.
It is worse. Cartilage doesn’t regrow. Take a look at a pic of someone who has their ear torn or shot. They grow back like shit without intervention.
There is no way to that he had more than a graze.
Then again, I’m probably just paranoid. It isn’t like he has direct experience with fake blood capsules or the people who use them regularly.
iirc the shot was 300 yards with iron sights. That’s not impossible but it’s not easy either. Someone who doesn’t shoot often would definitely have trouble with that
his ear also never got shot, and he had blood on it somehow? where did it come from. hence the staging accusations.
IIRC the consensus was the secret service agent tackle caused it. Not surprising for a frail old man to be scraped pretty easily. The pageantry with the gauze was to leverage the injury into a tough guy image instead of sad bruised geriatric.
I don’t really buy the staged conspiracy theories.
- Secret service protection is reduced when you’re not the president and would be spread thinnest during peak rally-season
- Trump’s polling was really, really bad at the time. The motive makes sense along with the demographics of the shooter (all these assassination attempts are from disillusioned groyper-types)
- He looked confused/in shock during and afterwards and he’s not a good enough actor to fake that
- A person died from the shots, no chance live ammo would be allowed
- In the weeks following Trump made very few appearances and rumors were describing ptsd symptoms. If it were staged you can be damn sure that blowhard would be putting on photo shoots every day
One died, two others were in critical condition. The conspiracy theory is fucking stupid. Same bullshit as Alex Jones.
100 yds with iron sights isn’t exactly easy.
Does it matter if he used blanks?
Yes, I’m implying this was staged and he was just used. Maybe he was even told that he was there to protect trump as a secret backup to USSS. There are a lot of mentally ill people that you could convince of anything.
Does it matter if he used blanks?
Blanks than killed one and sent two more to hospital. Magic blanks.
it had back up irons but also a red dot. I doubt he took the shot with the irons flipped up.
IIRC, the shot was also just inside where the rifle would be effective.
The rifle is effective at ranges further than the shooter. In every case. That rifle is more than capable of a killing shot from there, and further.
He was 130 m or so away. 5.56 is deadly from further. A lot further.
Every marine qualifies with 5.56 at 500m
Qualifying on a range and hitting a target dead on in a real situation is not the same thing.
I don’t like that this is thrown around like it means anything. You do not need to hit that target to qualify, and you will not be very combat effective at that range anyway. Range quals ≠ combat effectiveness.
Not even close. In the Marine Corps, we qualified at 500yds with effectively the same rifle using iron sights
First, not even close. The moa of the rifle used was 2-3, where both the m4 and m16 are about 1. It was a crappy rifle that sold as a very-budget rifle. It wouldn’t even qualify as “good enough”. Like the m16.
Secondly, the ammo he was using was a lighter loading for target shooting and lower energy.
As set up, it was at the edge of what crooks could be effective at (which is significantly lower than what he can hit at.) even if Crooks had the skill to make the shot. (Which he didn’t.)
The same reason the kid chose it for his nest is the same reason that the Secret Service would have had some counter sniper teams up on that roof.
Where were they?
Obviously, given the miraculously healing ear. Of course he could also be the actual antichrist.
Isnt this the one that was staged, photo ops and all prepared?
oh sure and two people were shot and one killed with blanks. This is fucking Facebook.
Yeah, I can’t believe any intelligent person would think this wasn’t a totally staged event.
They staged a nick of the ear, then the death of Corey Comperatore and the critical wounding or two others?
The deceased victim was identified as Corey Comperatore, 50, of Sarver, PA. The second victim has been identified as 57-year-old David Dutch, of New Kensington, PA, who is currently listed in stable condition. The third victim was identified as 74-year-old James Copenhaver, of Moon Township, PA. He is also listed in stable condition.
Now tell us idiots how blanks did this.
Did you know any of those people personally? Have you ever met them & their families & friends? Where are the interviews & sob stories from these people? There’s none because it never happened.
It was all coordinated and he has history of such things. With his TV show and WWE. It’s too obvious.
It’s crazy to think that we were just millimeters away from a completely different timeline
“I went forward in time…to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the assassination attempt.”
“How many did you see?”
“Fourteen million, six hundred and five.”
“How many did he survive?”
“One.”
Seems unlikely, this kid was for sure a patsy
Who dat?
The kid who got the closest to assassinating Trump that we know of. Although, the details are extremely dubious, with some going as far as to say the assassination attempt was staged.
Guy on the roof who died supposedly clipping Trump’s ear?
The magically regenerating ear.
The one and only
Interesting. Content/proof for this?
The proof is when the demented turd forgot to put a maxi pad on his ear the next week and there wasn’t so much as a scratch. Nobody heals that fast or completely from a gunshot wound of any kind, especially a full blown geriatric.
Interesting. Haven’t thought of this. Any good source/analysis on this?
The very same, yes.
The one we never heard about again?
The one that the Epstein administration stopped the investigation into
Ofc it was staged. Do you also believe in fast and furious movies?
Do you think Trump is brave enough to sit there with a good chance of being hit? No, literally nothing is worth him feeling personal risk. That’s why it’s a dumb conspiracy theory.
I don’t think he’s “brave” enough, but I do think he is STUPID enough. You are trying to apply normal logic to virtuosically incompetent MAGAs. They never looked at it like they were putting Trump’s life in danger, they were going to rally the entire nation behind Trump, after he was almost assassinated, and ride that to a wildly popular win on the election.
Except the overwhelming response was irritation that we didn’t get to see his head explode on national TV. Then it became immediately apparent that it was all a clumsy hoax that resulted in a murder, and they quickly buried it.
Except when Trump tried to revive the sympathy vote by screaming at the debate about how he “got shot in the head!” What a fucking pathetic drama queen.
Do you think Trump’s bodyguards would have left him uncovered while they pretty much posed for a dramatic Renaissance-core photo after he was “shot” 🙄? Look at that photo, they left him wide open for another shot while his ear is supposedly bleeding. Because they knew from rehearsal that the only second shot would be coming from the camera.
Except there wasn’t a bullet. Of course he wouldn’t, he didn’t. Literally everything he says and does is a lie in some way.
Are we just ignoring the Cory Comperatore guy who was shot and died during the assassination attempt?
Shooting someone else is no threat to him.
You said there wasn’t a bullet, I talked about the guy that got shot and died via a bullet.
That’s all my point was about.
Trump is a narcissistic, rapist, pedophile, piece of shit, don’t think I’m defending him in anyway.
The one who missed.
Me too, want to know.
We got some replies 👍
Thanks
We know he was a far right agitator who wanted for there to be a massive right wing backlash against the left if I remember correctly.
He would have changed nothing. America would still be attacking Iran if Harris had become your president.
No way, Israel tried to get multiple administrations to take on Iran. This one replaced anyone that would have objected with sycophants and yes men.
More like he almost doomed the free world and the economy. Imagine if Trump died and an actually competent fascist came in his place. This is the best realistic scenario for America; someone like Putin would already have his opposition in gulags.
I mean that’s possible, but also Trump is 100% being managed by the federalist society. He can barely stay awake during meetings, no way he’s actually dictating policy.
And that also assumes their was a clear second to take the reins of MAGA that the inner circle would rally behind, power vacuums tend to lead to infighting and without a clear cult leader the low level maga worshipers would likely be in chaos.
I mean that’s possible, but also Trump is 100% being managed by the federalist society. He can barely stay awake during meetings, no way he’s actually dictating policy.
For the most part, yes, but there are pretty clear Trumpisms that a better fascist would have the intelligence and discipline not to indulge in. The whole tariff fiasco for example was completely unnecessary (which is why it’s not in Project 2025), and the sheer mass of unforced errors leading up to and during the Iran war would never be made by someone like Putin or Erdogan. Trump is being manipulated behind the scenes, but he’s also head of an increasingly authoritarian executive and can do things without his handlers’ approval. I’m certain, for example, that a more competent fascist would’ve been able to manufacture at least some consent for the Iran war, as well as get traditional American allies on board to some extent. These unnecessary failures keep kneecapping his administration’s credibility in ways that would’ve already been fatal if America had better opposition (though I guess with enemies that bad who needs allies). And this is before we get into factors like Trump’s inability to channel his own support into down ballot votes. Hell, at the very least America might’ve been run by a fascist who can stay awake during meetings.
And that also assumes their was a clear second to take the reins of MAGA that the inner circle would rally behind, power vacuums tend to lead to infighting and without a clear cult leader the low level maga worshipers would likely be in chaos.
Initially, yes, but very quickly the systemic need for fascism would win out, and there’d be a consensus candidate ready to sweep the elections by 2028 at the latest. Again this is hard to appreciate due to how incompetent the anti-MAGA coalition is, but with a martyr and a somewhat competent leader it’s perfectly plausible that neo-MAGA would’ve had bigger—maybe even filibuster-proof—majorities in Congress and more cooperative state governments across the board. As far as fascism goes, this is still easy mode.
…but with a martyr and a somewhat competent leader it’s perfectly plausible that neo-MAGA would’ve had bigger—maybe even filibuster-proof—majorities in Congress
They don’t need any of what you described to go “filibuster proof”
- They don’t even filibuster. They threaten to filibuster.
- The super majority vote to bypass filibuster is a PARLIAMENTARY RULE. It is not law, they can change the rule at any time with a simple majority vote. This is not in the constitution. They’ve changed the rules a few times since 1975.
- They bypass the “filibuster threat” whenever they would like to, by using the simple majority vote.
This is how you know what they want to pass or not. If they want to pass the bill, they bypass the filibuster threat with this simple majority vote (like budgets), there are almost 200 exceptions so far.
No conspiracy is needed to accomplish the objective that you describe. It’s done been done for decades
I’m not too sure about the whole tariff thing. A lot of people in his inner circle made a fuck ton of money through tactically placed trades before and after each wave of sanctions.
And again with the Iran war stuff, a lot of people are making a mint off this war. And also it’s Israel that wanted this war and basically all of the people pulling the strings have some loyalty to Israel.
I don’t think so, historically when we see a fascist leader get killed the underlings fight each other for power and fall apart more than they coalesce around a new leader.
I’m not too sure about the whole tariff thing. A lot of people in his inner circle made a fuck ton of money through tactically placed trades before and after each wave of sanctions.
Yes, that’s why I said “intelligence and discipline,” not just “intelligence.” Compared to the expected gains from a fascist dictatorship, a few insider trades are peanuts, so a better fascist might’ve kept their eyes on the prize and held back on this front instead of threatening the whole project.
And again with the Iran war stuff, a lot of people are making a mint off this war.
See above. A competent fascist wouldn’t risk their entire project just to make mint.
And also it’s Israel that wanted this war and basically all of the people pulling the strings have some loyalty to Israel.
Yes, which is also an unforced error. Israel can’t force a US president to do something they don’t want to do, and US presidents with a backbone have a long history of saying no to them, most recently with Obama and JCPOA. A better fascist would be able to make their own decisions rather than listen to whoever is loudest at the time. And in any case, even if war with Iran happened, it could’ve still happened much more competently.
I don’t think so, historically when we see a fascist leader get killed the underlings fight each other for power and fall apart more than they coalesce around a new leader.
What fascist leader died while on the cusp of power? Dying after decades in power is a whole different deal.
True actually, the maga cult that justifies everything Trump does finally got pierced by Trump starting a war only he would be dumb enough to start.
Not that the war was the problem, mainly just gas prices went up which is anti American or something.
This was prior to his reelection, so who would have taken the reins? Vance? Desantis? They wouldn’t have turned out the voters like Trump did, even if Fox and OAN and the rest of the propaganda machine worked overtime to harp on how dangerous the left is for assassinating their guy or whatever. Trump has a uniquely cultish charisma that Vance and any other likely replacement candidate simply didn’t.
A replacement candidate didn’t exist then, but one would quickly emerge from the general mass of American fascism if Trump disappeared. They wouldn’t make it in time for 2024, but they’d crush it in 2028.
