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TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 9 days ago

When did you realize that all laws are made to benefit the rich and/or oppress the rest of us, and a politician's job is to write the laws and sell them to the voters?

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When did you realize that all laws are made to benefit the rich and/or oppress the rest of us, and a politician's job is to write the laws and sell them to the voters?

TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 9 days ago
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    I’m still trying to wrap my head around it.

    I just realized there’s no legal way to earn money without getting fucked or fucking others over.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    2008 was when the conclusion was unavoidable

    The Iraq invasion and all the Halliburton bullshit was when I began to realize that the justice system truly has two separate tracks.

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    They don’t always write the laws, sometimes they let lobbyists do that and pass them without reading

    • LowtierComputer@lemmy.world
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      Often

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    Late 70’s, just after I started working. My then Union rep. ( Remember them?) was a good teacher and saw Thatcher for exactly what she was.

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    I guess I haven’t yet. Maybe you can help me: How do laws against, for example, rape, only benefit the rich while oppressing the rest of us?

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      Donald Trump violently raped his ex-wife because his hair plugs hurt. She was bruised for days, according to her book.

      He saw no jail time. Not even a charge.

      Not one Epstein Client has seen jail time.

      The vast majority of cases against the Affluent fail to secure jail time, if they’re even brought at all.

      In many cases it is not that the laws are written in a way that precludes prosecution, however they are written in a way knowing it is unlikely to ever bring prosecution against those in the Epstein class.

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        The US is a hellhole with a billionaire class living above the law, sure, not arguing with that. I guess maybe I should have assumed US defaultism for this question.

        But OP made a blanket statement about all laws, and didn’t specify a country either. If your username is any indication you’re a Marxist. How do you think a Marxist state would work without laws?

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          One can assume they’re drawing from current material conditions, and not meaning to disparage the theoretical platonic form of ‘laws;’ specifically the fact that it doesn’t matter which country you pick (with few exceptions that do try their best), under capitalism those with capital statistically make the laws, and specifically make them to bind the working class while not expecting them to ever affect themselves.

          Now one could argue all laws that could possibly exist do this to some extent. And some people would think you’re correct, but realistically the word society is synonymous with rules, which itself is synonymous with laws, so no one seriously believes that any group of more than one person would exist without some level of legality; though that last line itself is incredibly contentious given the hang up some people have on 'if there are laws then surely there must be a state to enact and enforce them – and to those people I say actually read your literature, either anarchism or communism.

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      Social cohesion is important for a smoothly running business. Unpunished rape creates problems on the shop room floor. Or to put it another way, rape gets punished extrajudicially in ways that are not good for business or social cohesion in general.

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      No way you haven’t heard about Epstein and friends.

      • PonyOfWar@pawb.social
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        No way you haven’t read the other replies to my comment.

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    Around 12 when I started reading communist and black panther literature.

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    deleted by creator

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    12 maybe 13. I’m 38 now.

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    There’s literally not a law or crime the rich can’t buy them selves out of.

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    Few years ago. Right before this phase of the genocide in Palestine. I had an idea of it before that but I wouldn’t have called it a conscious thought until then.

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    Just now! Thank you for youre inside knowledge!

  • Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
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    Law school

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    Late nineties.

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      Late 80s here

      Reagan was a fucking cunt.

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      1890s or 1790s?

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    2016

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    Never because of the term all.

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