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Watch the video.
It’s tough, because it’s literally a video of a murder.
But we all have to watch it.
3-4 Icicles at holding a man down and beating him, one of them lets off a single shot that instantly makes their victim go limp. Then 2-3 other icicles all draw and fire multiple shots into the body while the rest scatter.
Shit isn’t getting better and complying doesn’t work.
This is why I’m saying we need to get even more violent in retaliation.
People can downvote me all you want, but you know I’m right. It’s literally the only thing these actual monkey-brains understand: violence.
If there’s 4 of them beating and killing one person, there needs to be at least 10 of us with knives and aluminum bats hitting right back. We need to mix up our own chemical warfare agents.
there needs to be at least 10 of us with knives and aluminum bats hitting right back.
No, because that will make them open fire…
What will work is protesters in plated vests with rifles.
Every state is different. For Minnesota it’s illegal to open carry a rifle, and there’s no permit to open carry a rifle. But if you get a permit to carry a handgun, you’re now allowed to carry a rifle.
The threat of effective violence is more effective than the actual act of ineffective violence, even when the threat is just passively implied by the presence of rifles and plates.
It costs less than a grand to get kitted out just like an ICE agent, hell, most of them don’t even seem to carry rifles, but all the more reason for protesters.
The Black Panthers seem to understand what it’s gonna take to deter Miller’s stormtroopers. Superior firepower.
Protesters should assign disciplined guardians: Kitted out, and watching from rooftops and windows.
These terrorist cowards might come to understand the words “constitutional oversight” when they break RoE and are gravely punished from above in return.
Show up alone, you get arrested. Show up with 100 people, you get shot. We need to show up with 100,000+ people.
Organize! Join an organization! DSA, PSL, something anything!
Pretty sure they did have 100k+ people yesterday at least. Maybe not yet this early, but 100k people does not mean much when the organized violent thugs just wait until they can find people away from the large crowds and murder them on the street.
I see one person in this video. Imagine if there was 100,000.
There was. And then they left ICE intact, which then found a spot the next morning with maybe a dozen or people and did a murder.
maybe a dozen people
I think you’re missing my entire point.
What is it then? 100k+ people should exist 24/7 around the entire nation on each block?
What you do is break that 100k up into 100 separate 1000 person marches. That then also spreads out the Feds and makes it basically impossible for them to round everyone up.
Other people who read the news are not idiots and do not need this thinking outlined for them, it does nobody besides feds trying to make bullshit arrests for terroristic threats any good to share these thoughts on public forums
Implying the feds aren’t running a troll farm to incite people.
we need to get even more violent in retaliation.
That’s how you lose.
That’s what they want.
Right now two white people getting killed by ICE in broad daylight with dozens of cameras on them is slowly but surely destroying the GOP. There’s nothing that shifts public opinion more than a clear narrative of “good guys” and “bad guys”. When one side is armed and the other side is unarmed, and the armed people are killing unarmed people, there are clear good guys and bad guys. The white house is doing everything they can to spin the Minneapolis victims as “terrorists”, but when they’re unarmed it’s a matter of seconds to disprove what they’re saying.
As soon as the anti-ICE protesters start getting armed and start shooting back, the story gets complicated again. It becomes much easier to claim the protesters are violent if they’re shooting back. It’s dead easy to claim an ICE goon feared for his life if someone shot at him.
“They’re shooting at ICE” gives Trump the excuse he needs to send in the military and start having guys in APCs start shooting heavy weapons into a crowd. It’s also much more likely the soldiers are going to obey if they’re getting shot at. If they’re sent in against unarmed protesters and ordered to mow them down, it’s very likely they’ll refuse that order. And, refusing that order would be a big step in the end of the Trump regime.
Not shooting back is the main thing that the Minneapolis protesters have done right so far. It’s also the most difficult thing to do.
But hey, it’s America. America thinks guns solve problems. So, go solve that problem Americanely, while the rest of the world just watches the US tear itself apart and shakes their heads.
I just don’t want our guys to get hurt.
Don’t make a stand in a blaze of glory. The goal should be to make sure nobody knows who did it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/m1xOMR7R4q8
The video
Grabbed this from a lower comment, should be attached to the top comment.
I watched it multiple times and they just executed that guy. They just unloaded the entire clip into the body. Fucking hell that’s just gruesome.
At some point for these highly insecure “warrior alpha” types: “stopping the threat” just turns into jacking off with excitement.
I’m trying really hard to see how this could be anything else than a straight up execution. It’s hard to see any way that dude could be threatening the life of anyone here. He’s shot on his knees with his hands down looking away from the shooter (granted the footage we have here it’s kind of hard to tell just cause there’s so many people). There’s footage of him talking to the agents before just holding his phone to record and then they start shoving him. There’s also 8 bajillion agents beating the shit out of him right before. The woman’s footage from the other side of this will show a ton if she was recording.
Anyways, I look forward to hearing how this heroic agent saved the lives of all his fellow warriors during this altercation. Hope the agent recovers from the assault safely and quickly in the hospital…
Edit: few things, someone pointed out the agent in the grey coat disarms the victim and runs away with his weapon before he’s killed which I did not see at first.
Also, second lady’s footage is now out and it doesn’t show anything different than a bunch of thugs beating the shit out of this guy and then killing him.
Her footage (NSFW)
From this it seems more obvious to me that they saw a gun on him (I think I hear the agents shout ‘gun’) and they panicked and shot. Lack of training and discipline. Just horrific.Why they unloaded the rest of the mag when he was clearly incapacitated I don’t know. Total lack of respect for human life.
This is outrageous, and there should be swift justice.
I’m about to watch the video, but just want to state my thoughts after reading the article:
Video shows several agents wrestling the man to the ground and shooting him multiple times
This is the only information the article states. Their passive language suggests to me the sequence of actions is unclear, but probably that while wrestling him, he was shot before being fully restrained
Now to watch the video and find out if the wording is propaganda
2 notes:
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That shooting is so much worse than the wording would suggest
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I didn’t realize the article was in a feed format. Explains why it was only 1 sentence
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The mag dumping was so egregious.
But we all have to watch it.
Repeating for emphasis. Official stories are already being posted that are blatantly not what happened. There will be some portion of the population that believes the lies they’re told. It’s powerful for your own sanity to be able to know with certainty that you’re being fed bullshit because you remember seeing it with your own eyes.
3-4 is a generous underestimate.
Link?
EDIT: Nwvermind. It had been pushed further down the thread.
Here is the video link
I disagree about everyone having to watch it.
I am capable of believing you, others that have seen the footage, and the reports coming out about what’s happened here. Seeing the act in full detail isn’t going to strengthen my resolve against ICE, nor make me more empathetic to this man or his family.
This is all barbaric, and while I similarly don’t think it’s getting any better, I don’t have to watch a recording of the last moment of this man’s life to know he was murdered, just as you don’t have to go see his corpse in the morgue to know the same.
No.
You need the visceral emotional reaction.
That’s different than logically understanding the abstract concept a murder happened. That’s not new, but what happens in this video is new. It crosses the line in an inexplicable fashion and either enough people see it happen once in this video all at the same time, or we all wait to see it individually in person
With respect, don’t tell me what I need based on what you need.
I don’t need to see a thing to have an emotional reaction to it. I am not a child lacking object permanence.
Being able to watch a dozen different angles of a person’s death in high definition isn’t necessary for everybody. Most murders have no footage, and empathy can still be experienced for them. Surely you also run the emotional gambit when you read of a school shooting, whether or not there is footage of the carnage, don’t you?
With respect, don’t tell me what I need based on what you need
You don’t understand any of this, but if you were polite and asked questions I would have explained it and you’d have walked away from this with more knowledge than you had now.
Think about who really lost in this exchange
Who really lost? You perceive this back and forth as something that can be won or lost? Both you and I are arguing semantics from behind screens, not out risking our life and limb. There are no winners here.
You do though, because one the authorities start spinning their lies, there will be an element of doubt in everyone who has not seen this video.
An element of doubt? I can think critically. Can you not? The default thought hasn’t been ‘trust the authories’ for quite a while now. Rather the opposite.
If you hear two conflicting stories, without witnessing for yourself, there will always be an element of doubt. I’m not saying trust the authoritys, and I don’t know where you got that from. I’m saying you shouldn’t blindly believe what anyone says.
I got it from the comment you wrote.
because one the authorities start spinning their lies
I haven’t suggested anything about blindly believing a singular source. My point is that a video source isn’t necessary for everyone.
im almost sure one of them shouted “gun…gun…” then they executed him 1 second later despite the fact that he was not reaching for it.
Let’s break this down more.
If we choose to believe he had a gun so what? You are legally allowed to carry a gun in this country. The presence of a gun is not a legal excuse to murder a person.
Even if he had a gun he was being actively held down by several members of ICE. I don’t see how he could have drawn a weapon in that position. Regardless once they started beating him while he was on the ground he had every right to use deadly force to defend himself.
So even if you believe what DHS has to say the video shows there is no scenario where the mere presence of a gun justifies their actions
I rewatched the video and you can see his entire back, no weapon below the waist. If he had a gun in his hands they would have shot him on site. They’re just lying to us
I’m sure these guys keep spare guns just for these kinds of occasions.
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Watch the video again.
Tan beanie greenish coat guy pulls out a pistol and starts pistol whipping the guy.
Grey coat sees this, and nopes the fuck out.
Tan beanie stops pistol whipping him, readjusts his grip…
Then his hand is block in the video and a single shot rings out, causing everyone else to flea before shooting the body.
It really really looks like this guy just decides to escalate from pistol whipping a restrained and subdued man to shooting him in the head while multiple other people who didn’t know what was going on held the victim down.
This is just inexplicably fucked.
It wasn’t a pistol, it was a can of bear spray. Still horrible and not at all necessary, and no worse/better than a pistol imo. Just mentioning for clarification.
A valid question but more likely that they dropped a gun, on purpose or by incompetence, then they freaked and murdered the guy.
Fucking piece of shit fascist
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they executed this man. they beat him to the ground, pistol whipped him, and then shot him WHILE HE WAS PRONE AND LAYING DOWN.
Americans, for fucks sake, on the other site I’d be perma banned for suggesting what you know I’m going to suggest but you guys REALLY need to utilize that 2nd amendment you hold so dear. They are literally NOW executing you and to those that STILL believe “it won’t happen to me or my family” you’re wrong, it will and it currently is.
The only GOOD Nazi is a DEAD one.
The only GOOD Nazi is a DEAD one.
The Greatest Generation understood this at great cost, and after that bloody sacrifice our leaders quietly pardoned and installed the wretched and vile filth into influential positions anyway, sugarcoating their twisted ideology with a shiny star-spangled finish and telling us freedom had won the day.
Would our great grandfathers still have charged those beaches if they could see how “great” their country has become today?
(Edit) I think they would…
We disappoint their memory at our peril.
No 2a response. This requires organization by competent people with military training in coordination with state government. Where this is going is obvious now. Citizens need to keep on with nonviolent protests and hope to hell there are retired generals out there willing step up and plan and implement what’s needed.
Walz should be using the activated MN National Guard to arrest the ICE fucker who executed a MN resident and to cordon DHS personnel to their federal buildings, denying them the ability to leave the wire to go out on CP’s. Instead he’s staging them against the MN residents protesting. Fucking bullshit.
Ironically this is literally the “well armed militia” part of the second amendment that conservatives seem to ignore. Some were concerned that the federal government could simply use military force to undermine state sovereignty, so they enshrined the ability for the states to regulate militias independent of the federal government.
The fascists have spent decades eroding this right by pushing the idea that the amendment is about self defense of the individual, which is a much less of a threat to their fascist aspirations. Now we see the ultimate conclusion of this ideological trojan horse - the “second amendment crowd” is enthusiastically embracing fascism, while the states are powerless to push back.
Here is the video. There is no justification for this shooting.
That makes me sick to my stomach.
The sanctity of a human life has lost all meaning if it can be violated so casually without consequences…
This pot’s about to boil over. It won’t be long now…
Frogs sitting in said pot: “this is fine”
The ones that leave, have a future.
Hey man, if I could leap out of the pot, I would…
I can’t find the interview now or remember who it was with because of my brainrot but roughly than six months ago this woman was saying in no uncertain terms things will get progressively darker and more violent. And I’ve thought of that when every one of these moments has arisen. She was speaking more to the need of a parent whose health premiums quadrupled and SNAP benefits were cut having to care for and feed a sick child and what that might do to their anger and willingness to go do something against the elements foisting this upon them, but of course we never can predict what the precise hinge point moments are going to be during turbulent times. We just knew they were coming. And now they are. And will continue.
“And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days. But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day. For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”
Watched video a dozen times looking for a weapon near or on the person shot. Just couldn’t imagine how to justify this otherwise.
I see a water bottle hit the ground early in the video but that’s it. Clear hands and wasteband from what I can see so far.
I’d love to be wrong.
It would’t matter if he was strapped with a .45 brother, that’s a right we have right after speech. They’re in the wrong here, this was MURDER. It was not even an execution. Execution implies you know it’s coming.
It’s like that one video with the cop dropping to the ground doing barrel rolls and shouting shots fired, when an acorn fell and hit the roof of a car.
Bunch of untrained morons.
From what I understand, the water bottle was a mace canister. Some reports were saying the guy was reaching for it to use as a weapon but I don’t see that. It is then kicked away. Also, pay attention to the agent in the gray jacket. He walks up a bit late, and disarms the victim by pulling the (holstered) pistol from his waistband. He then runs away holding the weapon as the victim is shot. Like a dozen times.
President gyna neck and v.p. permaliner: “Don’t worry, we’ll just make something up.”
They fucking mag dumped after the victim is clearly dead. These fucking fascists are untrained racist cowards. Every fucking ICE agent deserves to be imprisoned.
If you’re not screaming to destroy ICE I don’t want to hear your fucking opinion.
Dangle.
Fucking hell.
This was an execution.
Where them 2A boys at?
They are the ones behind the masks doing the murdering.
Exactly. Just look at the social media accounts of people who are pro-2A. They’ve suddenly found themselves in a boot licking contest.
Tired of hearing this. Pick up a gun yourself and prepare to defend your neighbors and yourself.
THE 2A IS FOR EVERYONE, PASS IT ON.
8 against 1 … 100% executed cause pogroms on immigrants are now normal
Plot twist: Wasn’t even an immigrant. Was a tall handsome white male VA nurse. That man was worth more than all the men in ICE.
Several witnesses have already been transported to the Whipple building. ICE attempted to order local police from the scene, but O’Hara refused, sources said.
O’Hara instructed his officers to preserve the scene. The BCA was enroute to the scene.
All available MPD officers have been called into work, except dogwatch (overnight shift), and days off cancelled.
Lines are being drawn.
The problem is that the police tend to side with the fascists.
From what I understand, the man was recording. Approached by ICE, pushed by ICE, then assaulted by 6+ ICE agents, then murdered.
Next headline: Paid insane far left violent radical terrorist, viciously attacks lone ICE agent trying to deescalate situation. ICE agent barely survive with near fatal wounds.
There’s footage of pretty much all of that. He’s talking to ice agents holding his phone. He’s then pushed around. Another protestor is also pushed. He moves toward that protestor who is on the ground. They swarm him and the rest is history.
The close up from the woman standing right there:
Ohh, I think I see what happened. The up close angle makes it clear that “dangerous” man was trying to assist two unarmed women who were being assaulted by federal fascists after they made the fatal mistake of… maybe saying something mean (? I guess) or disrespectfully blowing whistles on a public street and trying to walk away.
I guess Americans should really know better than to try and deescalate when fascists are in the middle of having such a fucking ball assaulting their neighbors.
Note to all the “white knights” out there (not the ones who traded their hoods and crosses for a government issued mask and gun, just the ones that respect women): be careful not to cross the sexually frustrated terrorists when they’re out there working through their issues with women. They’ve been training their whole lives for the day somebody would actually pay them to put a woman in her place when she gets a little too sassy. It’s not fair for you to spoil it for them. /s
What the fuck were those broads thinking anyway? They must have known there would be fatal consequences for their actions. I mean really, imagine the audacity of just walking right up to and disrespectfully whistling at a white supremacist on a public street in 2026.
So basically the opening scene of V for Vandetta, but the guy wasn’t V
I’ve never actually seen the movie, but I’m pretty sure every ICE agent is the guy who (somehow) believes they’re the Guy Fawkes in this situation.
A really important watch these days… It’s like it’s made for now
Do you have a mirror? Reddit is blocking my VPN
These are the “Life is so precious” people. Fucking losers, hypocrites and Nazis. I am up for the firing squad when this ends. We can’t allow such evil to continue. Anyone else with me?
I was for long prison sentences, but those that issued these orders, and those that enthusiastically carried them out, should be executed. These are your fellow citizens, there should NEVER be a situation that you are firing on your own citizens for any reason.
The problem with prison sentences is that the next republican just pardons them and we’re right back here.
Yeah, we’ll have to revisit the whole presidential pardon thing, and prohibit its use to aid cover ups of presidential criminal activity, and make it retroactive. All the Jan 6 Traitors better show up to serve out their sentences, or it’s an additional 10 years, without any parole or good behavior time.
Or we can simply charge them all again for crimes we didn’t charge them with before. They’ve got a deep bench of past criminal activity. And all the J6 Traitors can just be charged with Sedition, and get all new sentences, significantly longer than their first sentences.
I could definitely enjoy seeing them get charged and imprisoned multiple times.
If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.
So if I can shoot rabbits… Then I can shoot fascists?
It’s your duty as a human. Think of it as pest control.
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I wasn’t able to find any snapshots of that removed text, but it seems super plausible because they apparently had a reporter who happened to be on the scene before and when things went down
A Bring Me The News reporter who was near the scene said an agent opened fire at a man outside Glam Doll Donuts at Nicollet Avenue and 26th Street at around 9 a.m.
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Immediately after our reporter approached the scene, an agent was heard yelling for help and scissors to open the victim’s shirt. Agents told our reporter that they had immediately called 911 for assistance.
I’m guessing they told him that at the barrel of a gun, interesting that the optics of them refusing that doctor who wanted to do lifesaving care on Renee apparently got to them
But if this detail is confirmed I can’t imagine how pissed off the cities are about to be
New video uploaded to Reddit shows several federal agents struggling with a man outside Glam Doll, during which a shot is fired, followed by multiple more shots fired at the man as he lay on the ground. [Ital added]
The video seems real enough, and is exactly as described. They’re trying to incite a violent response so they can justify calling in the paratroopers who are on standby
If they think that a lack of justification is going to stop the fascists, they’ve got another think coming. Even if the response is completely non-violent, the fascists will just get tired of waiting and invent their own excuses, like they always do.
It won’t stop them, but will make it easier to rally the broader public against the Nazis. Having more people siding against them is important
Yeah, I feel like they’re going to go martial law in October no matter what, but in the meantime violence from protesters is just going to a) fracture the anti fascist coalition b) provoke retaliation from ICE that will hit bystanders
Things may get worse no matter what but violence is likely to make them worse
Paratroopers?
As fucked up as it is, I hope someone wants to see how resistant those parachutes are.
I can see this incompetent fuckwit administration telling Drinky Pete to send in the paratroopers because it would “look cool”.
Still, though. Harris didn’t support the working classes.
The first shot instantly made the victim go limp. You can’t see most of his body, but arms and legs go limp immediately.
All the agents jump away, and multiple immediately fire multiple times each into the body anyways
They were fine with medical, because they were confident he was already dead at that point.
https://files.catbox.moe/sp296e.mp4
Video from the lady in pink (opposite to the first one). The man to the right in green literally pulls out his gun for no reason and shoots the guy in the back of the head. Absolutely horrid.
Best quality video of the pink lady’s pov I’ve found: https://files.catbox.moe/sp296e.mp4
Numbers go brr.
One of the other comments here joked about a gofundme. Should there be or is there some crowdfunding service to help fund the general strike?
That would have to be huge
Would probably get more people on board if there was a strike fund.
Sure but I don’t see how it’s doable for potentially tens or hundreds of thousands of people, and with no strong organization like a union
I will continue to post this every time someone insinuates that someone else should murder Trump/ICE Agents/ etc. Instead, please focus on protecting you and yours.
In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.
Owning a gun isn’t enough. Driving to Cabela’s and picking up a vermin killing .22 is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.
I am not advocating for violence…far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.
PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn’t about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect.
Shotguns are not a good buy. A standard 12 gauge has significantly more recoil than typical rifles, a lower rate of fire, significantly less range, smaller magazine capacity, and lower reliability due to the construction of the ammunition. It is also completely ineffective against hard armor plates that are now ubiquitous.
Suppressors are cool, but they’re not all that useful. Most people would not have them, so hearing protection would still be required. Simple foam ear plugs are the most effective, and very cheap. Electronic muffs with a pass-thru microphone and speaker system can be had for as little as $50, allowing you to hear everything around you other than the gunshots.
The purchase order for someone trying to make themselves a player in a democracy, is a semi-auto rifle, preferably an AR-15, a dozen magazines, ammunition, electronic muffs. Following that, a sling, an optic, a way to carry magazines on your body, ceramic armor plates. You can consider a pistol, a baton, around the time you’re getting a first aid kit, a radio, a helmet.
Price, availability, and ease-of-use make a 12 gauge pump action the best choice in areas where AR-15s and other scary looking black rifles are restricted.
Make sure to have ammunition appropriate to your environment. 00 buck is perfect for rural homes, #4 buck is better suited to neighborhoods where collateral damage is a concern.
Make sure to have some bird loads for drones, but use caution when shooting in, around, or toward populated areas.
Be advised, hollow point slugs are not effective against armor, nor is any kind of shotgun load.
And be warned, the instant you fire that thing indoors, you won’t be able to hear anything for a minute. Hearing protection can help, if you have time to put it on.
Even in areas of the US where AR-15s are restricted, it is usually possible to purchase one in a neutered configuration, which can be returned to standard configuration if you’re so inclined.
There are other box-magazine fed intermediate-cartridge semi-automatic rifles that are a better choice than a 12ga shotgun, and don’t run afoul of assault weapons bans, such as the Mini-14 and SKS.
A pump action shotgun is better than nothing, but it is most suitable for hunting ducks and deer.
I urge people to look into LoRa based motion sensors. Not as good as direct wired but better than WiFi due to range. This will give you the moment you need to get ready.
I’m okay with a shotgun. Blowing someone who just illegally entered my home back out the way they can sans lots of innards sets a precedent.
Do be aware that suppressors are substantially restricted in some states. Where I live, earplugs or shooting muffs are the only option
I’m not normally one to recommend this, but you gotta stop worrying about “legality” now.
As a practical matter:
- no gun store here will sell me a suppressor
- nobody will ship me one
- I can buy earplugs in bulk cheaply and easily
- a gun is just as lethal without a suppressor
Then build one.
Suppressors are just tubes with baffle plates. You can make one with home depot parts if you needed to.
You can make one with home depot parts if you needed to.
Not really. You could shove some freeze plugs from the auto parts store into a capped length of iron pipe from the hardware store, but the tap to thread it onto a muzzle isn’t something you’ll find in either store. And good luck getting all the holes to line up if you’re trying to do it with a hand drill or a drill press. In the end, you’d have a real piece of shit, weighing down the front of your gun for little benefit.
You’d be better off not bothering until the local machine shop starts selling nice ones, along with full-auto conversions.
Please show us a demo of your Home Depot DIY.
Assuming an American audience, suppressors are a federally controlled device requiring a background check. Some states control or ban them outright more strictly.
Suppression for the common citizen isn’t about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect.
Will deffos put you on a list but yes, absolutely. I wish the tax stamps weren’t so high because morons who knew nothing about firearms were trying to score “I’m doing something” points.
Ask any service member who’s probably still fighting with the VA because their hearing loss and tinnitus at age 38 is deemed “Not service related.”
That being said, these electronic earmuffs people are mentioning are the bee’s knees, so you could invest in a couple pairs of those and a poopton of batteries for the same cost as a suppressor, and still have enough left over for other important things, like a first aid kit.
Tax stamps are $0 as of Jan 1st this year. Silencershop even has kiosks at gun stores that’ll take your fingerprints for the Form 1, and the processing time is down to about a month before you take ownership.
Woah, that’s some educational stuff right there! Thanks for sharing this! I’m gonna look into it more now. :D
