Indulge me for the coming delusion, but if we ignore who this is, forget all the reasons we know that we can’t trust him, and allow ourselves just a few moments to hope that we could live in such a world.
A world where manual labor is no longer needed, where people can just exist as large mammals are meant to exist. Robots will handle it all and we can just do as we please… and the robots are going to be plentiful because once enough of the process of making a robot becomes automated, the cost of it will go to zero. But to get there it is going to require a ton of money… these robots are going to be way too expensive for people to actually buy them, so investors and governments will help out. The investors will eventually lose everything, but that will put us on the way to having everything we need to be created through completely automated systems.
Of course, there will still be jobs for those who really want them - or more likely, who want them and are good at them - or even more likely, who knows the right people… but if we can get our basic needs taken care of it night not fully end poverty but it would be a step in the right direction.
But, alas… It’s Musk saying it so it’s only to further enrich himself and won’t actually happen.
I’m not even going to look up what “Optimus” is. I don’t waste time on this clown anymore.
You just know already he’s gonna scam, grift and cheat to get that pay package, not do anything worthwhile.
And if he can’t get it, he’ll cry and sue to get it anyway.
You’ve already seen it most likely, that stupid bipedal robot that isn’t autonomous yet and can barely navigate on a concrete floor.
It’s simply a way to get a trillion dollars by spending a few million on a project that gets scrapped.
Isn’t this the same guy who tweeted that he would end world hunger for something less than $6 billion if the World Food Programme would supply a plan? And then WFP supplied the plan. And then Musk just…didn’t supply the funs to prevent people from starving.
Isn’t this the same guy who performed two sieg heils in front of a live audience on live TV. Then he was to much of a sissy to admit it.
Not quite, someone posted that he could end it and he responded that if the WFP provided a plan showing the specifics of how world hunger could be ended for that amount he would fund it. WFP then provided a plan for how that amount could be used to help reduce world hunger for a short time and Elon said “the claim was end world hunger, not reduce it temporarily” which meant they didn’t meet challenge.
Can the rich should stop running all the cool stuff, please? Optimus, Anduril, palantir, lambas, mithril… Every childhood memory tainted by evil businessmen
No wonder Musk was bullied as a kid.
"Instead of physically jailing prisoners, Optimus could “follow you around and stop you from doing crime,” he said
This is going to last all of 30 seconds as that is the amount of time it’ll take for a criminal to hop a cyclone fence and take off never to be seen again. Or we can have the 10 minute scenario where criminal and friends take sledgehammers to the thing and sell it for scrap.
Nazi not see
Dude read the Culture series, took all the wrong lessons from it and is speedrunning that horrible vision for a sorcery in his own mind.
So the robots will kill the poor?
… and liars lie.
M’eh at this point we can assume his bots are to carry out mass extinctions. Not to say the g word.
Uugghh! Every time I hear him speak, I am reminded of just how stupid he is. He thinks like a 12 year old.
Not one mention of how robots that do all the work for us, is going to solve the problem of how people are supposed to be able to afford to live, when no one has a job anymore.
Are you volunteering to pay for everyone’s UBI, Elon? No? That’s what I thought.
He is not a smart man. He maintains a facade of supreme intelligence, somehow, and continually tricks people into believing it. If anything, it’s more a reflection on the American people than anything else, and that’s incredibly disappointing to type out.
I just don’t think this is the case. He’s an incredibly smart man but his intelligence lies in assembling talent and raising investment to allow said talent to create the vision. He’s basically in the same vein of Steve Jobs. Our media driven culture likes figureheads so he gets all the credit and has started to believe his own hype. Bill Burr the comedian has a great bit about their function.
Musk is a horrendous man but clearly very autistic and desperate for a validation that money and success can’t provide. There’s something very tragic about him. The bitterness and resentment that sits at the base of his ego, frustrated at not being popular or ‘cool’ despite his success and money drives a LOT of his bad decisions. It’s all an attempt to control.
tesla/spaceX have literal teams whose only job it is to keep this moron from driving the company into the ground.
he’s an idiot.
Capitalism is truly the most efficient system. Needing whole teams to control the owner just because he’s the one that owns the workplace due to having money
His talent is getting money to fund things by lying and exaggerating which doesn’t require intelligence. That is a learned skill, frequently learned by kids of the wealthy like Musk and is generally successful long term when their early lies paid off and investors are betting on the person continuing to lie in a way that makes them money.
there are also people who make their living by following rich people to get them to fund projects. I read about construction companies that would follow Trump around and have people slip him ideas so he felt he was this amazing business man. All the politicians are following this method.
You know that people do this with Elon and any other rich person. Stroke the king’s ego by pretenting it was all their idea and get rich off of it.
You’re confusing intelligence with cunning.
He is cunning to a tee.
He is cunning to a tee.
“Hey let’s livestream me playing Path of Exile after saying I’m the best in the world, with uncensored live chat from thousands of pseudanonymous gamers with actual experience.”
He’s good at creating the illusion that he’s a genius on a subject for the duration of an informal conversation. Steering away from topics he doesn’t understand, forging signals of deep understanding by mimicking the speech patterns of an expert who struggles to put things in lay man’s terms while namedropping memorized keywords, etc.
If you look at Path of Exile and the Cybertruck, it’s clear that Elon doesn’t know when his promises are unrealistic in a way that will make him look like an idiot. I think he has handlers, not just at SpaceX but everywhere, and those handlers are the real talent. Those handlers know how to cultivate experts that are actually good at their jobs to quietly do the work that Elon takes credit for and how to coach them to make Elon feel good about this arrangement most of the time.
I would have thought cunning is a form of intelligence? Using strategy and planning to apply knowledge? I’m intrigued, will have a look. Cheers. I just think people are desperate to pretend Musk is stupid because he’s turned out to be a nasty piece of work. They want to strip him of his intelligence as a way of getting back at him. I can’t take people seriously who think he’s stupid. Tesla and Space X. Come on.
Every time I hear him speak, I am reminded of just how stupid he is.
I know this is common knowledge on Lemmy, but damn it’s still nice to read. When I talk to folks around town, they all think he’s a genius… it’s really jarring.
The article is useless because it provides no sources, and only links back to itself. But yes, basically he says UBI “will be necessary”, as if the world’s first trillionaire would ever support such a thing.
Dude. It’s the USA. Those people will simply starve then. Problem solves itself. Like magic, but without work!
This is an insult to twelve year olds. Seriously. I was never as stupid as this guy at 12. I would have STARTED with how to deal with the people displaced, not omitted it entirely.
That is a fair point. I apologize to 12 year olds everywhere. That was an unkind comparison.
Also WHY would we want robots to do the work for us ? The problem is generally the working conditions, not the mere fact people have to do it.
Quite a claim from the guy who labeled things “Full self driving” and “Autopilot”. 🙄
As aneengineer he is the worst kind of marketing rep. His BS claims have to be back filled and it never works. “Requirements by Press Release”
That’s because despite what many got fooled, he isn’t an engineer, he is just good at selling shit to people.
He likes to throw out technical terms to impress people with how knowledgeable he is. Those who actually have knowledge can see how miserably clueless he is and laugh at him, but the public don’t see that.
Can someone ask him to clarify what he mean by “eliminate poverty”?
Because there are a couple of way to do that which I’m not too found to.
In a sense, this is what will happen when people are simply disposed of because they are useless.
AI executioners.
Ask one of his shitty robots! Failing that: “Hey Grok, how would you eliminate poverty?”
Grok: I would get rid of unnecessary parasites( poor and unnecessary people )
The full presentation is 10x weirder. He says the robots will eliminate poverty and provide universal health care. In fact, he says the only way we can get universal health care is with optimus robots. He also says that with optimus robots we don’t need prisons. We just have an optimus robot follow criminals around and it will stop them from commiting crimes.
He also sounds like a 5th grader nervously stumbling through a speech to their class about Luis and Clark.
Kill all poors obviously
He could give all of the poor people some of his tesla shares.
If he had done this, he wouldn’t be so cool.
Elon, this isn’t 2014. Only your die hard fans believe you.
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Minutes earlier, the crowd cheered and broke out into chants of “Elon, Elon!” as shareholders approved Musk’s $1 trillion pay package.
There’s still plenty of them.
elon is took ketamine-out to notice.
It’s crazy how we all know this dude is the male cracked out version of Elizabeth Holmes and getting paid unfathomable sums of money to commit all of these obvious and serious crimes in public.
These are forward looking claims on something they are building. It’s not quite the same.
FSD is closer, but it is an improving product.
It’d be more like if FSD wasn’t ever improving even and yet he still kept making the claims.
He should still be punished for the FSD stuff though.
