What are minimalist loser politics?

Take your pick:

  • Everyone should live in small tightly packed apartments (bugman shit)
  • Don’t eat meat
  • Don’t have a car (15 minute cities)
  • Eat bugs (it’s good for the environment!)
  • Don’t have kids (it’s bad for the environment)
  • If you have a car, make it a boring small one
  • AC should be banned

All of these are loser politics that make mainstream people (aka normies) disgusted and unwilling to support leftist causes. And for good reason! Why should the working classes give up the little comfort and luxury they have, while the rich buy carbon credits to offset a transcontinental private jet trip to the ocean-side to board a mega-yacht orgy?

We have enough resources (especially when we do away with the capitalist class) to give everyone a nice house in a city that looks more like a forest because public and private transportation now happens underground. But people still have nice cars to ride out into the countryside or use on racetracks.

And so on. There are enough resources that everyone on the planet could have a lifestyle of a medium-developed Eastern European country like Czechia. And when the left starts using resources in a more rational way (no more profit motive) everything just gets nicer.

So why then do leftist pick these horrible restrictive policies?

  • jeff@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    You’re delusional. I’m far left and support non of those.

    Sure, some fringe leftists believe in all of those. Most would only maybe support one.

    You watch too much tucker max

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      1 year ago

      IDK man, I’m a liberal in an ultra liberal bubble and have heard locals sincerely espouse all those views at various times.

      The extremists of any movement tend to be cringy kooks.

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      1 year ago

      I have never watched him, but I do plan to watch the interview with the man who allegedly bummed Obama just for the lulz.

      I am also far left, but I don’t support any of those. I support what I wrote under the bullet points. There is no reason to stop eating meat or blasting AC in the summer.

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        1 year ago

        “No reason to stop eating meat”?! There is literally no reason for eating it. You were lied to and made comfortable with the meat industry that ruins everything. Please watch anything read anything about animals, environment and the meat industry.

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          1 year ago

          I am very comfortable with the meat industry. Meat is tasty and nutritious and healthy and I see no reason to stop eating it.

          I know that you speak next about the suffering of animals, so let me preempt that by saying I don’t care. Animals do not have souls, and God was very clear when He said that Man has dominion over the Earth. I am happy to kill and have animals killed for my benefit. In fact, in a way it pleases me. All these animals, and yet we humans are at the top of the foodchain, being able to breed and eat them as we please. Why would I want to give up that power? That’s exactly the type of loser politics I’m talking about.

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            1 year ago

            You’re a looser for believing all that BS and for contributing to endless suffering and ecological collapse. Meat is amongst the top 3 contributors to climate change. It’s in no way at all healthy (that’s a lie spread by the industry, but go on believing that). If you cared at all about humans or the planet you live on, you’d know to stop.

            But “I do what I want, nothing I do has consequences” is the type of shit that led all of us here.

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              If we switched to nuclear power, limited the use of cars (intercity transport only, intracity only public transport), and banned private jets and short haul flights, we’d offset carbon emissions enough to eat all the meat we want.

              I will never stop eating meat. You will have to put me in a gulag to get me to stop. And I think I am not alone. I have a taste for flesh, many of us do.

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                1 year ago

                absolutely insane person. that’s not fine. you’re not doing the right thing. i will stop interacting here since you’re toxic. you mentioned something about “god”. so go ahead read your bible. maybe there’s hope for you there.

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            1 year ago

            Jesus Christ, kid. You might be a sociopath… and all the God talk? There is no God. You’re responsible for all the awful you put out in the world, and judging by your comment that’s probably a lot for you.