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    This reminds me — did they ever explain when there are so many other alternate universes, why they only keep going back to the “evil” one? Is there some connection or experiment that keeps binding the two universes together?

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      The episode that screenshot is from has a theory from Data that posits there are infinite amount of alternate universes. Every decision having it’s own differing universe.

      As far as I recall, they don’t explicitly state why the Mirror Universe is the one that gets the most action. They are extremely similar so presumably the barriers between the two are thin. This combined with each being aware of the others existence means that there’s a tension between the two. Tension gotta be resolved somehow so they keep fucking with one another.

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        It was kind of talked about on Discovery with Georgiou after they went to the future. The universes were drifting apart, and because the mirror universe was no longer aligned with the primer universe in whatever year Discovery ended up in, Georgiou was not able to maintain cohesion and had to go back in time. link

        I may be misremembering headcannon as an actual line from the episode but I seem to remember hearing that the mirror universe was the one that was the closest to them on the space time continuum. The fact that they were both aligned is why people could travel between them and not others.

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          I don’t remember that line about being the closest but I’ll check the episode again here soon, I’m just finishing up a random Voyager episode. The rest I remember. I had always taken it as the universes were so close together because so many of the decisions that were made were the same or similar. However as time went on, the differences built up further and further until the wall was weaker. Again that’s just headcanon from me. I’ll let you know if you’re right on the continuum thing in a few minutes!

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            Sounds good! It’s definitely been a while since I watched that episode. We are currently re-watching TNG and I really don’t feel like taking a break from that to watch DSC lol. No offence, Dr Stamets 😅

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              I never got my Doctorate, don’t worry about that. Stamets is fine. That’s what they, and my husband, scream at me during a red alert anyway.

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                And, supposedly, behind the glass while they’re mourning their best friend.

                STAAAAMEEEETSS!

                (I might be remembering this wrong)

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                  Don’t remember that off hand. There was a bit in season 1 where he was in the reaction cube and “died” in the coma. Tilly was talking to him but no yelling that I remember. Culber did yell, I think, during the 100+ jumps that Lorca had him do at the battle over Pahvo. Then again my memory is faulty as all hell so decent chance I could have forgotten it too. Do you remember anything else?

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                    I was just talking about the bit in Wrath of Khan lol, pay me no mind

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              So I saw the chunks (from two different episodes) that have conversation about the Terran Empire.

              In S3E5 (Die Trying), Georgiou and Dr Kovich are having a conversation and Kovich says “Unlike the Terran Empire which collapsed centuries ago. Were you aware that the distance between our two universes started expanding something after your departure? There hasn’t been a single crossing in over 500 years. You didn’t know that did you? You’re all alone now.”

              In S3E9 (Terra Firma Part 1) the episode opens with a conversation between Kovich and Culber, talking about her symptoms. Kovich then talks about how LtCmdr Yor had come across from another alternate universe, the one from the Kelvin timeline movies, and forward. That fucked him up. He says that every molecule fights to either go back in time or jump a cosmic divide. Then “900 years have passed. The Prime and Mirror universes have been drifting apart the whole time.”

              There’s nothing else that I saw about it. That being said, the conclusion you came to does make sense and I see how you got there.

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        They are extremely similar so presumably the barriers between the two are thin.

        That’s something they’ve said, but it doesn’t make much sense. Most of the universes Worf went to in that episode are much more like the Prime one than the Mirror Universe is.

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          It still makes sense. Other universes being more similar doesn’t mean that the mirror universe isn’t similar too. Moreover, what reality described were quantum realities.

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      Theirs is the evil universe to most others.

      How many timelines has the Federation ended through timeline meddling? And how many races were doomed when the federation forced species 8472 into stalemate in the war against the Borg? The Federation even used bio weapons to destroy the shape shifters in the dominion which would inevitably create a violent power vacuum in the delta quadrant.

      The other universe wants nothing to do with the trek one.