• emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 days ago

      This is not eugenics and wouldn’t be permanent. People shouldn’t be having unplanned pregnancies while addicted to hard drugs. If you cant stop using meth long enough to conceive then how are you gonna stop uaing meth during the pregnancy? Or once the baby is born? I have no problem with drug use and think it should be legalized but i think this would be a good concession to make if it were legalized. If you wanna have a baby just stop using meth. Otherwise go nuts.

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        6 days ago

        It should be done with deception.
        I agree mothers shouldn’t do meth or alcohol or tobacco or bisphenol A
        The solution isn’t sterilization it’s healthcare
        And if we can’t have it, if we can provide it to everyone
        then we just deserve the consequences of our actions as a whole

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          6 days ago

          I assume you mean it shouldnt be done with deception? Which yeah i agree with and wasnt suggested in the original post. His sign just says put birth control in meth, it doesnt say hide it. Also do you understand that birth control is temporary and is not the same as sterilization?

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      7 days ago

      I mean… some drugs (the medicine kind) are prescribed with birth control because they’re bad for babies. Is meth not bad for the baby?

      Also, if I may, what exactly is the criteria for something to be eugenics? I am not well informed; would, for example, not allowing people who wear black socks to have kids be eugenics?

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        Rendering people infertile (even temporarily) without their informed consent is unethical. Doing it to a class of people due to your perception that people like them shouldn’t breed is eugenics. This would qualify. The black socks thing probably would too, but it sounds ridiculous because that’s a class of people nobody would realistically target for elimination from the breeding pool.

        Offering free birth control to drug users- fine! Dosing them without their consent- no bueno.

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          6 days ago

          Pretty sure that as of recent years, meth is often mixed with fentanyl without being disclosed to a user or probably even a dealer.

          But it also funny to see how people say that this should be done yet they somehow forget that (allegedly) it is not government that sells drugs but drug cartels that do. I bet they wouldn’t mix birth control into drugs at all. Why would they? That in best case for them does nothing for a higher price of production, and in worst case it will deter customers. Shit’s never going to happen.

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            6 days ago

            Seems more dangerous and less feasible than just offering free birth control. Handing out meth to addicts is a bad idea, even if it’s laced with something beneficial. Most women take b.c. willingly, no need to mix them together to coerce them.