“Ummm actually, both things can be bad.”
“Uhh sweety, both things can be bad actually.”
“Have you considered that hypothetically China bad.”
"Both things are bad, unlike you tankies we can critise all types of imperialism… 
I’ve read the freedom road’s take on the tiananmen square incident and the tensions at the time, but why was it not a bad situation?
“Christian Nation” spots splinter in China’s eye while ignoring plank in its own.
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You know more than one country can be dangerous, inhumane and unjust, right?
You know that being from a country doesn’t automatically mean you agree with everything that country’s government does, right?
You are from that country, tho. So do something about that or shut up about the foreigners.
Not to mention, “Tiananmen Square massacre” is a fabrication from US and their UK media lackeys in the same way they fabricated the beheaded babies and the Nayirah testimony and literally too many instances to name.
What happened was a violent clash between the government and US sponsored terrorists trying to hijack a wide-tent protest which dissipated quickly after the violence started. The US kills and has continued to kill more people than that on a weekly basis for decades, without even the veneer of legitimate self defense. Kent State massacre, the entirety of COINTELPRO, MOVE bombings, the killing of the Ferguson protesters.
There’s one person in jail RIGHT NOW for every 200 in the US. Cops kill black and latino people on camera, unprovoked, following horrible displays of cruelty, then flaunt it in your face that you’re gonna pay for them to do it again.
Shut up about china or anywhere else in the world that isn’t funded by your government fr.
What happened was a violent clash between US sponsored terrorists trying to hijack a wide-tent protest which dissipated quickly after the violence started.
Can you support this claim with evidence?
Given that cowbee has very kindly provided a source already I just wanna clarify that I didn’t mean a clash among terrorists themselves, but among them and the government, I just lost a few words in the process of rewriting the sentence.
Another View of Tian’anmen by Sun Feiyang and Roderic Day is a good introduction to the backgrounds of the protest, its distortion and foreign-backed influence, and western media distortion of both the context and the events of June 4th themselves. For further reading, Qiao Collective’s Tian’anmen Protests Reading List has a lot more you can dive into. Both should give you a better understanding of the non-western viewpoint on what’s officially called in China as the “June 4th Incident.”
Thank you
No problem!
You are from that country, though. So do something about that.
Are you assuming I haven’t because no one has stepped in and singlehandedly fixed all of the US’s problems? What are you expecting?
shut up about the foreigners.
You mean foreign governments. I have no issue with any group of “foreigners”, just the governments that brutalize them.
Speaking of, why are you talking about America at all, while telling people to “shut up about the foreigners”.
Speaking of, why are you talking about America at all, while telling people to “shut up about the foreigners”.
Peak gringo deflection. Because unlike USians speaking about countries they’re actively, openly sabotaging, the rest of the world should be able to criticize the one government trying to fuck us all in the pursuit of having everything for its ruling class forever. I’ll stop talking about the US the moment y’all fuck off and stop stealing all our wealth through your financial and military apparatus, or spreading torture and terror through proxies because it’s “the strategy” only to use it as an excuse to talk about us like animals. I’d be happy to never again remember your shit stain of a country.
American’s aren’t fucking you over. The US government is fucking you and it’s citizens over. It isn’t my fault the government of the place I happened to be born in is evil.
It isn’t just the government, it’s also the fact that the US is the world’s imperial hegemon, and a settler-colonial state. There’s a large portion of workers bribed by the spoils of imperialism and settler-colonialism into complacency with the status quo, or even enthusiastic support. The oppressed black, chicano, indigenous, and other nations within the US are in general not just fucked over by the capitalists and state, but by their fellow workers.
It’s important that we identify the core issues with the US Empire, and that we don’t white-wash its genuine problems away and push them all on the state or the bourgeoisie. The working class needs to unite, but to truly do so, we have to recognize and align on anti-imperialism and decolonization, both of which require a large portion of the working class to work against their own class interests.
Still making jokes about North Corea?
