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    Akchuawly that is not the gay pride flag but the universal general use pride flag. Gay men and Lesbian each have their own.

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      Afaik that only changed relatively recently when the other flags were accepted to the collection. Many of us grew up going to Pride with the rainbow flag as the only ‘gay’ flag.

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        I would say that is precisely why it became the general use flag. Easy to recognise and not tied to a specific gender subgroup.

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        Yeah, I think the earliest instance of the blue toned gay men’s pride flag is like the 2010s? I know I didn’t see it before then, and I mostly associate it with tumblr and twitter.

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        No. All of the queer people I know hate the ally flag. Why? Because the point of being an ally is that you’re supposed to be supporting the community as one of us. By flying the ally flag, you’re setting yourself apart and distancing yourself from queer people. You’re essentially saying, “I’m not actually gay, I just support gays”. If you wanna actually be an ally, fly a rainbow flag and let them confuse you for being gay. That’s where you’re actually putting yourself at risk, and that’s where true allyship exists. Otherwise you could be a coward and walk away whenever the heat gets too intense.

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          It reminds me of the “allies” who insist that in LGBTQIA+ the A stands for ally instead of asexual. Literally replacing a marginalized sexual identity community with being tangential to the larger community.

          While these questions aren’t as bigoted as having “straight pride” events or asking for “white history” month, they see all born of the same fundamental misunderstanding of a given community in context of a larger biased society.

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            It reminds me of the “allies” who insist that in LGBTQIA+ the A stands for ally instead of asexual. Literally replacing a marginalized sexual identity community with being tangential to the larger community.

            Oh my god, they are the worst. Sometimes they’re just clueless and will happily listen when you correct them, but I’ve found a lot of them will fight back and try to gatekeep. Because someone who is cishet deserves to be considered part of the community more than someone who doesn’t experience sexual attraction (asexual), romantic attraction (aromantic) and/or the concept of gender (agender). Because someone who is cishet should be deciding who is allowed in a movement based around civil rights for people who aren’t cishet.

            If you don’t think it’s appropriate for white people to tell black people how to run their civil rights movements or how to run a tribe as an honorary tribal member, why would it be appropriate for a cishet to tell queer people how to run their movement? If you’re an ally then you’re here to listen and amplify our voices, not tell us how to be gay (and you sure as hell shouldn’t be policing our voices and tell us what is or isn’t queerphobic *looks at the painfully obviously straight tankies who crawled up my asshole and told me I was homophobic because I told them to stop sucking Kim Jong Un’s dick*)

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          As a mostly straight cis there is one scenario where I want to be able to use something like it, but I’m not entirely sure the best way. I occasionally to places like gay bars or clubs with friends. I generally dress well and care about my appearance, so when I’m at places like that I do get hit on. That part doesn’t bother me at all and is actually kinda flattering. I just feel bad having to shoot someone down knowing how much it sucks to muster up the courage and get shot down anyway.

          I tend to operate on a Golden Rule type of system and if I were them I’d appreciate some kind of very clear nonverbal indicator what that person is about.

          Then again that could be the 'tism talking. I wish people had “specification” summaries floating above their heads to make knowing how to interact with them easier. Of course if that were the case, then plenty of people would take advantage of it in some way.

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          I was thinking the same thing as the person you were replying to but you’re absolutely right. Thanks for pointing that out!

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        I am not aware there is a specific flag for it but the idea if a general use flag is it can be used by anyone. Most recognisable to bring the point across.

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    Trump types would understand it better if you said maps instead of pedo