Please don’t tell me to get off of it, I have old Livejournal friends to keep in touch with and that’s why I’m there.

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    But it’s them we are talking about. Same as your original comment. Otherwise it wouldn’t be the same scenario. For the people in question it’s normal yes.

    I was talking about how I don’t consider it normal.

    I know. It’s normal but you don’t find it normal. I feel like we’ve covered this before, but it has been a long conversation so I’m not 100% sure.

    I noticed in some of the replies you seem a bit upset. I hope this conversation isn’t the cause of that. I know it’s been a long and probably frustrating journey.

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      No, we are not talking about them. I said “they think it’s normal, but it’s not normal”. That’s not what you say it is.

      See? Now the fact that you’re misrepresenting the conversation for trolling purposes becomes a problem, because we have to talk about what I was actually saying, so the whole thing falls apart.

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        No, we are not talking about them.

        I said “they think it’s normal, but it’s not normal”.

        I’m confused. It does seem like you’re referring to some third party in your comment (“they”)

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          You are confused. In theory, for the purposes of this conversation in the way it’s being carried out.

          The key to your confusion would be apparently lacking an understanding of the word “but” and how it works in a sentence, though, which may be a bridge too far.

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            I just thought you were referring to some third party and saying how their normal isn’t normal, even though it’s normal for them

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              That’s exactly what I was saying. Which is not the same as what you’ve been implying I was saying but is the same as what I was saying I was saying earlier.

              Hopefully that clarifies it.

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                Which is not the same as what you’ve been implying I was saying but is the same as what I was saying I was saying earlier.

                I’m confused on what you thought I was implying. The point has always been the same afaik

                You

                I can’t believe how much of the world just… goes with it and thinks it’s normal. It’s definitely not normal. Just some serious psychosexual patriarchy mindfuck going on for so many people.

                Me

                It’s normal because it’s what most do. That’s what normality is

                Typical and even expected in a lot of places. There it would be considered normal

                It’s normal in those places because it’s usual, typical or expected. If it’s not those things where you live, it’s not normal where you live. It’s not any harder than that.

                I was maybe too optimistic with that last line.

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                  Oh, cool, this is the easy part of these dumb things where we get to just copy paste the original conversation and go down the loop. Hold on:

                  You added “a lot of places”. It’s not typical or expected here, so it’s not normal here.

                  So “normalcy” on this is geographically bound. So is it normal if my normal and your normal are different and the Internet is making us rub our normals together?

                  Told you it was a waste of time.

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                    I wouldn’t call it stupid, you were under the assumption that I implied something different or changed it during the conversation so I just showed what I was saying right at the start to show that it’s been the same.

                    You added “a lot of places”. It’s not typical or expected here, so it’s not normal here.

                    You always need context to describe normalcy.

                    So “normalcy” on this is geographically bound. So is it normal if my normal and your normal are different and the Internet is making us rub our normals together?

                    Geography is one context, but it’s more about societal norms in this case, which don’t strictly follow geographical bounds. So yes and no. In this case if the people in question live in a place where it’s typical or expected, it’s normal.