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  • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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    19 hours ago

    Normality: the condition of being normal; the state of being usual, typical, or expected

    Typical and even expected in a lot of places. There it would be considered normal

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      19 hours ago

      You added “a lot of places”. It’s not typical or expected here, so it’s not normal here.

      So “normalcy” on this is geographically bound. So is it normal if my normal and your normal are different and the Internet is making us rub our normals together?

      Told you it was a waste of time.

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        19 hours ago

        It’s normal in those places because it’s usual, typical or expected. If it’s not those things where you live, it’s not normal where you live. It’s not any harder than that.

        You were complaining about places where people “just go with it”. If by that you mean places where it’s typical or even expected, then it’s normal there.

        It’s not necessarily geographical but just about community, group or societal behaviour.

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          18 hours ago

          Okay, so it’s not normal.

          It’s me speaking, I say it’s not normal here, so it’s not normal. By your definition.

          Of course if we dispense with the pendantry we would argue that the point of saying it’s not normal is to highlight how it’s inconsistent with the approach of society towards the rest of itself, so a society where women change their name to take their husband’s is not normal because it’s inconsistent with the rest of the mores regarding the interactions between men and women.

          But that’d require not nitpicking a thing to pick a pedantic fight online that is a waste of time, so… not in the scope of this conversation, I suppose.

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              18 hours ago

              No, wait, why can you phrase it that way but not “it’s not normal but they think it is”.

              Why is one of those statements not equivalent to the other?

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                12 hours ago

                Because for them over in wherever it is normal. If they lived where you live it wouldn’t be normal.

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                  9 hours ago

                  Okay, but what says their perspective takes precedence? You’re saying it’s normal for them. Cool. I’m saying it’s not normal for us.

                  Why is their normal a higher priority than our not normal? Either “normal” is a meaningless concept or you need a better justification than that.

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                    8 hours ago

                    Normality is defined by what happens around them. For them it is normal, for an outsider it might not be. If they would be talking about you then the roles and normality would be reversed

                    Normality isn’t meaningless it’s just dependent on the surroundings